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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:26 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:25 pm | |
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| | | battleshipbuff Gunner
Posts : 174 Join date : 2012-03-16 Age : 78 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Shannon spaghetti.. Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:53 am | |
| Thats certainly a lot of wires,as I previously thought when soldering the extensions on them.It gets a little confusing at times!! Now that you have all the ones associated with the mast area together,it looks like it could be a real nightmare to sort. I dont blame you for getting a little rest and recreation for a couple of days away from it all. It will all come good in the end,Im sure. Hope the weather is not as bad as they say its going to be for you. Enjoy it if you can Mick F | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:46 pm | |
| been to Liverpool today……….peeee'd it down all day...….to the lakes tomorrow, and then back on the job on Thursday. as you say mate its a nightmare, and now going to get worst as I have to connect them all to plugs from the inside without damaging the mast on the outside...…...think i'm going to get a padded box and put the cabin in it upside down to do it. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:53 pm | |
| the Lakes trip was cancelled today due to inclement weather, and so this afternoon I set about tidying up all the wiring on the onside of micks Shannon cabin, and then soldering on the plugs for the switch that mick had supplied. this afternoon I soldered up and tested and labelled each one to make sure he had the full complement of lights. I had been worried about how to invert the cabin without damaging the mast which sticks up precariously from the aft flying bridge...……..but then a simple solution...…..I put the dogs old bed and a pillow on the top of a plastic storage box, and inverted the cabin on top of it...…...…...simples, …..job done. but not before taking delivery of his decals for the boat. these will go on last as I am never eager to put them on halfway through a build for fear of damaging them. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:06 am | |
| ohh, and without instructions...……. if you put the radar scanner together with its end caps on the scanner glued on...…….which would be the natural thing to do...…..even to an experienced or beginner builder as natural fabrication...……..IT DON'T GO ROUND on the base...….it catches on the upper cross tree stays...…... the scanner has to be trimmed down to length by almost 10 mm in total, for the thing to clear the stays...….WTBH.... |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:08 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:47 am | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:09 pm | |
| just as a little treat to you all, my model has just become full sized and here it is...……… it was returned to the water today after her 6 monthly health check and a clean up of the water jet drives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK5nwh1Dn4k&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR01TnKgbtObiOT1S9we1h41CEdRUuuZnXm24NAF6xUf_YP-9U7U0N1bqjk |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:57 am | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:11 pm | |
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| | | battleshipbuff Gunner
Posts : 174 Join date : 2012-03-16 Age : 78 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:16 pm | |
| Oh ells bells!!! What a catastrophe after getting this close to the finish line. So sorry for you Neil,after all this work,in doing something I know you detest doing.As we spoke tonight,just let me know what replacements you want and I will get them sent off to you. I sincerely hope you find it fairly easy to repair the damage,and that it wont take you too long. Of course I am most relieved that the damage isnt to my Shannon,but even so I am devastated for you. Sincerely hope it doesnt take you too long to put right,and that you can quickly get back on track Mick F | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:21 pm | |
| reconstruction of my mast started today, but first of all I decided to do what I was doing yesterday before I knocked to boat over and broke it in the first place.that was to connect ad thread the internal wiring through the ducting, including the spot lights at the front of the cabin and the upper bulkhead lights...….I opted for soft lighting in two sets of 6 led's...all were fitted under the false ceiling and routed through the ducting that caused all the trouble yesterday.then it was to the mast. although it should slot into a 3d printed bracket which had broken beyond use I decided to use some mild steel copper coated wire, looping it around the base of the mast and secured through what remained of the printed bracket. I know it isn't to scale for the purists and rivet counters, but a] it would take god knows how long to obtain another replacement from Speedline, b] I might damage the T mast removing the remains of the broken on, c] the alteration I have made will be infinitely stronger than the original fitting knowing my clumsiness, and finally d] who the hell will see it from 50 metres out in the lake. I have also started rewiring the led's but need 2 new ones from mick.whites as all took a hit, and I have already fitted the blue flashing. I have decided not to fit a working orange flashing light, but fit a dummy light, as in reality this would only ever flash if there was water in the engine room/bilges...….and then only temporarily unless she was sinking...………...and I doubt whether that scenario will ever take place...…...having said that I am a clumsy sod at the best of times.https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/15/04/81/87/img_0747.jpg https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/15/04/81/87/img_0748.jpg https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/15/04/81/87/img_0749.jpg https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/15/04/81/87/img_0750.jpg |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:38 am | |
| don't know what went wrong with that lo...…..try later. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:04 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:13 pm | |
| its not often that things go badly wrong on a build, but to encounter two within a few days is even more unusual, and something like this knocks the stuffing out of even the most inspired and confident builders,...………. and last night two mistakes, one though my clumsiness and the other through poor design and both on different boats, knocked the wind out of me...and I just had to shove the models to one side and sit down, have a couple or 3 beers, think how to solve the problems in my head, not the boats[ had already done that...………]….and take some time out! so, today spent most of the day writing obscenities in the grime build up on the drive with my power washer, until two Jehovah's witnesses paid a call, looked at my drive , the sardonic look on my face and scuttled off down the road, bypassing the rest of the houses in their haste to escape. I knew then, with a smile on my face that all was good in the world and I now knew what to do with the models...….. I finished power washing the drive, did some much needed weeding of the garden, and then later today got back into the garage to continue the sojourn. first I used industrial strength Velcro to hold the servos firmly into their small boxes. [job 1 complete], and then, more importantly to conquer the problem with the snakes and the directional nozzles. I drilled the clip connecter first with an 0.5mm bit to take some securing wire...……...then placed the snake inside the clip, and again drilled with the same bit. finally I took them apart after marking their joint position with a pencil, threaded the snake back through the tube, and then glued the snake onto the clip, and pushed the securing wire through the predrilled holes, and have left them to set hard on their own, rather than use accelerator spray. tomorrow I'll tidy them up, and twist the securing wire around the clips to make sure they don't fall out in the water. I will also touch up the paint on the clips, and the ugly but essential support blocks that now hold the brackets from breaking free. I would suggest to anyone that is building a Models by design Shannon that similar supports for those thin brackets ARE ESSENTIAL...…….how neat and formed you want to do them is your own choice, but they do need supporting. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:10 am | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:49 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:25 am | |
| Neil seriously you do NEED to put some LOCK nuts on the rods going into the clevis pins to stop the rod turning.....or when it is set up with your rc you can then solder the rod to the clevis or they will defo move...Been there had the Tee shirt |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:03 am | |
| - stavros wrote:
- Neil seriously you do NEED to put some LOCK nuts on the rods going into the clevis pins to stop the rod turning.....or when it is set up with your rc you can then solder the rod to the clevis or they will defo move...Been there had the Tee shirt
cheers mate, will do....……...once I have glued the servo holders down and they have set I shall dig into my spare parts bin...……………. but you have disappointed me sorely, I'm distraught …………………...not a single mention from anyone about my runaway chuck key. is everyone asleep. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:15 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:50 am | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:21 pm | |
| I was hoping to finish mick and my boats by next weekend but sadly with the final few days of my dads life before he passed away just over 2 weeks ago and then the two weeks helping my brother with this and that, leading up to the funeral on Friday my mind has been on other things than model lifeboats...…... but I did a little today by painting and masking up the 8 hatch lids for the aft end of the two boats, and painted them this afternoon with the textured paint to match the decks. tomorrow I'll hand paint the chrome and silver bits and then fit into the recesses on the boats. I have also fitted the "glass" into the frames of Micks boat and spray painted with matt black from the insides to black out his cabin. these I will leave out of the recesses to the cabin until the final moment as the open windows give a good hand hole when moving the cabin about. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:27 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:33 pm | |
| today, it was time to get the two hulls ready for drilling the ruffle hole in the bow keelson section for both boats. they all have one for running the securing strop through to a carriage, but the Fleetwood boat doesn't have strops nor does she have guide brackets for the strops, unlike micks St Ives boat does...…….so have his brackets to add . below shows the ruffle hole in the bow keelson of the Fleetwood boat, no brackets either, as I had been told by someone that all boats did have. I won't mention their name to save embarrassment lol. now, to drill through the keelson top take the surrounds, I would need to block it off somenow, or our boats would sink, as the interior keel is hollow...……. so I dug out my can of grp polyester resin, and mixed it up with some catalyst before raising the stern of each boat and pouring some resin into the bow end...……...that will be left to set for a couple of hours, as I didn't want to put too much catalyst in for fear of making a hot mix and distorting the hull grp. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:17 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:32 pm | |
| the holes were drilled, just oversized, and brass eyelets were inserted either side, to give a finished look to the ruffle hole. once glue had set I masked the skeg that runs from bow to stern skid and painted satin silver, first coat,,,,,,, another will be given to it once the paint has dried. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:44 pm | |
| Neil please please STOP using darned car filler to do jobs like that only one product to do that and thats P40 GRP filler.......2 reasons.....1 FILLER is porus.........2 P40 is resin mixed with chopped strand matting and is 100% waterproof......having seen one person having used filler to mount his shafts in and seen the results.....YES i know there is resin under the filler but it is cracked....porus filler = GLUG GLUG |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:35 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:45 pm | |
| - stavros wrote:
- Neil please please STOP using darned car filler to do jobs like that only one product to do that and thats P40 GRP filler.......2 reasons.....1 FILLER is porus.........2 P40 is resin mixed with chopped strand matting and is 100% waterproof......having seen one person having used filler to mount his shafts in and seen the results.....YES i know there is resin under the filler but it is cracked....porus filler = GLUG GLUG
thats what I am using mate, P40...…….. always have from years gone by...………….I only call it car body filler because I buy it from a car paint shop in Blackpool. but I buy the unstranded stuff without glass strands...……...easier to say. but, wrist slapped, i'll refer to it as p40 in future matey. save me being told off lol. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:30 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:11 pm | |
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Posts : 174 Join date : 2012-03-16 Age : 78 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:46 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:34 am | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:52 pm | |
| thank you Damien...…..……..i'll enjoy the Queenscliffe more though lol. |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:17 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: like a kid in a sweet shop Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:11 pm | |
| IT's all the small bits that take the time I didn't estimate on...……. first was adding the threaded screws to the three "bollards" for each boat and then fitting the first to micks boat. then it was the turn of the two life raft canisters, and the retaining straps and tie links...…..the black straps were made from sticky black plastic and the retaining links from brass wire. and then i was about to fit them, and i suddenly realised that the floors of the under storage area for the small raft canister AND the entrance to the cabin, had not been painted with the textured aged iron paint, that i had so much problems with........so they both needed painting. however they are so inaccessible for masking and getting a spray can into, i decided to mask off the lower edge of the entrance with tape and carefully brush paint them. i sprayed some paint into a margarine tub and let it go "off" for a few minutes. but even then, trying to paint it with a soft brush left it smearing and clinging to the brush rather than the floor, so, just like stippling grp resin into the matting, I stippled the floors with the flat of the brush rather than the end...…….it looks ok at the moment...…..just have to wait until it cures and dries for the finished result. and finally, I painted the boat hooks, Baliol blue for the starboard side, and white for the port side. this colouring goes back to the days of pulling/sailing boats when those out on a shout in hurricane gales when little could be heard, the coxs'n could actually shout Blue or white to get the nearest oarsman to use oars for steerage. might do soe more tonight once the textured paint has dried......gawd, I don't want to mess that lot up. |
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