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As if you could forget to make a part for me,feeling upset now.Love the idea of the pill cover for the blue light cover!
Just had a thought seeing you drilled your finger,please dont take up piercing or tatooing,I dont think customers will want your version of a teabag piercing with all the perforations lol
What with the wonderful work on the models(not fingers) being done ,by both yourself and Stav,AND hearing the good news about Mick in Canada,and the wonderful day out I had yesterday exhibiting my HMS RAMILLIES model,it has really cheered me up this weekend.
Thanks guys,I can never repay your kindness
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battleshipbuff wrote:
As if you could forget to make a part for me,feeling upset now.Love the idea of the pill cover for the blue light cover!
Just had a thought seeing you drilled your finger,please dont take up piercing or tatooing,I dont think customers will want your version of a teabag piercing with all the perforations lol
What with the wonderful work on the models(not fingers) being done ,by both yourself and Stav,AND hearing the good news about Mick in Canada,and the wonderful day out I had yesterday exhibiting my HMS RAMILLIES model,it has really cheered me up this weekend.
Thanks guys,I can never repay your kindness
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don't you worry...…….i'll think of some way, lol.  bounce bounce bounce
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so the boats have been sprayed so superbly by Stavros for mick and myself it is now ready for me to start adding all the parts that I have been feverishly making for micks boat behind the scenes and painting both sets ready for just adding...….

but not until I have made the wiring looms for the deck lights on both vessels and installed them tidily...…..once these have been done I shall just follow my nose and add the fittings in a sequence that saves me damaging others that have been added before the next batch...….a tall order. 


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the title of this thread says it all, lol bounce bounce bounce bounce 


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I have finally got them out of the car where they were safe and transferred them to my workshop...…….and I did it without putting a knock ding bump or scratch on either of them...……...which I was dreading due to my clumsiness...…..have added a couple of fittings to mine temporarily just to give it a bit of realism...……...but I could stand looking at them all night...…….superb work from Dave, my friend for painting them.

I am now looking forward to finishing them...…..

first comes the deck lights for both, and interior lights for mine. 


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Well obviously I haven't seen the paint job in the flesh, but can see from the photos what an outstanding job, Dave Stavros Jones has done on both of our Shannon models.I have met so many people on my travels, and feel very privileged to be able to have some of them as friends. Stav, thank you matey, for being so good to me.
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MORE...……..OF THE JOB I'VE BEEN DREADING!!!...…………


wiring up all of the lights on our boats...…..mick talked me into reluctantly wiring all of the lights into the two boats...…...he says they look better in the dark with lights on...……

I DON'T SAIL IN THE DARK MATEY...…….PERHAPS I SHOULD......to relieve the stress of arguing daughters, lol. 

anyway.....thought i'd start at the stern and do it like a ring maid, as each LED is fitted with a resistor to take 12v...

but there in lay a problem,,,,,the two most aft were inaccessible because of the superstructure, and so I used micks as a Guiney pig and drilled where I could to make the last holes just assessible……...think I have it cracked...………….and so, I glued the led's into the predrilled holes from the inside with supaglue, after testing each one before fitting....once they have set, i'll trim the wiring and solder each to the next in line so that at the end, i'll just have the two wires to attach to a plug that will go into a switch that mick has bought for the purpose. 


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took me some time and some foul language but Micks deck lights are now lit up like a Christmas tree.


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Looking great Neil if the LED's seem too bright you could increase the resistor value this will reduce light output.
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Damien wrote:
Looking great Neil if the LED's seem too bright you could increase the resistor value this will reduce light output.


I can always paint them black...…….my solution to lights on models, lol.  lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Hope you learned how to knit with all those wires
Knit one purl one. 
Damien, the resistors were pre wired, and if too bright at the set 12v,would reducing the voltage supply lessen the brightness?
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Hope you learned how to knit with all those wires
Knit one purl one. 
Damien, the resistors were pre wired, and if too bright at the set 12v,would reducing the voltage supply lessen the brightness?
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no point having lights on yer boat matey if they are dim...……..how will you see it in the dark...……..lol.
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another two hours this afternoon saw me sorting out the wiring that looked like spaghetti and also causing flickering of two lights. I de-soldered it all and went through it step by step, finding the faults [ yes numerous loose soldered wiring, which I re-soldered and then instead of soldering all together, I used wiring crimps and scotch blocks...….so now, all lights work.....permanently, lol...…...take time with the next ones.

and as a side to this the wiring looms were tidied up. 


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I shall leave my boat to fit the LED's for a day now, help my stress level diminish before I stack it up to feaver point again doing mine, lol...………

and so I started looking at the belting around my Shannon...…...I am in a bit of a quandary!!!

when Mick in Canada bought my boat for me as a present and ordered it in the early month of 2016 Adrian had made the belting out of hard resin. However within a few sets of mouldings, he had found that the mouldings became very hot during curing and this process was having a profound effect upon the moulds...…..creating heat and expanding the moulds, so that with every casting of the hard resin the moulds were expanding because of the heat and the belting mouldings were coming out bigger and bigger.
so he stopped using the moulds, and resin, remade the masters and started moulding in a rubber resin...……

he didn't realise this until after I had taken the model home, and he got in touch to tell me the new rubber mouldings were on their way to me and once I had received them to through the hard resin ones away...…..

but being the hoarder I am I kept the hard ones. I checked them some time ago, and being one of the first sets out of the moulds they had not expanded and are actually exactly the same as the rubber resin ones...…

so! the quandary is, do I use the soft rubber ones or the harder resin ones...……….TBH the harder resin ones actually look more like the real thing. 

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If it were my choice Neil, it would be the rubber one every time, if only for the cushioning effect when coming alongside. Or of course if you are like me, hitting other boats lol
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If it were my choice Neil, it would be the rubber one every time, if only for the cushioning effect when coming alongside. Or of course if you are like me, hitting other boats lol
Mick F


make a good weapon against all those you don't like at the lakeside, lol. I really am undecided though...……...the hard resin fenders look nicer.
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hi neil

I find that rubber tends to leave indentations on it if you happen to store it next to a sharp or blunt edge or against something over a long period,  while in storage. so my reply is the hard resin. Idea Thumbup 


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BUILDING CAME TO AN ABRUPT STOP TODAY.....WHY!!!? you ask...…


there I was happily gluing the LED'S into my cabin...…..and whilst holding one until the superglue set, I looked up out of the window to the nesting box sat on the window sill of the garage and to a blue tit sat on the washing line with a beak full of worms and grubs......shaking its bloody head at me, and refusing to go into the box to feed its chirruping fledglings...……


so I got up and removed myself from its line of sight and it flew into the box...…….


so I returned to my seat and carried on...….next minute the bloody thing was sat on the window sill again with a beak full of tasty morsels…...tapping its bloody beak on the window glass...…..


it's MY workshop I said, but it wouldn't go until I left the garage and back into the house.....


poor little sods will starve if I go back in, so for peace and quiet all work has stopped until they have flown the coup......turfed out my own workshop by a clutch of little birds.…..hope the little fluffy things realise the bovver they have caused me.
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Put some cardboard on the window to cover it and carry on
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Put some cardboard on the window to cover it and carry on


you know the state of my workshop mate...……..I wouldn't be able to see anything then lol...……..anyway...……...i'll start early and wake those little sods up, lol. 
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this morning was my trip down to Blackpool airport industrial park to an electrical suppliers fort some Jelly crimps.
these are small wire crimps suffused with a substance similar to none setting silicon which when two wires are passed through and crimped together to make an electrical "circuit", the "jelly" makes a waterproof barrier against water and damp...………

I needed these crimps to bind the wiring for the LED'S together on my boat I tried it a different way on micks boat, and although all lights work and the wiring sound it took me just over 4.5 hours in all to do his boat.………...I was sure that there was a quicker way and knowing I had a bag full in my workshop that I found over 10 years ago on the road side, I thought I would use them...……..could I find them yesterday...…………….errr NO!...……..So when the little dicky birds stopped play yesterday, I was relieved and set to finding some on ebay...…£4.50p for a hundred.

this afternoon I set too wiring my lights up...…...took me just under 2.5 hours, so that outlay was well worth it...……..

and this afternoon I switched them on for the first time...……...eureka ….I have a floating Christmas tree, lol.


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It looks messy, but all cabin lights and wiring have now been added, and glued into place with a silicon type glue that is very good with odd materials to odd materials.

also, at the last fitting of deck lights I just didn't have enough of them so saved a few for the fitting at the harder to access fore and aft end of the cabin until there additions had been ordered and sent...……..as they will be with me in the next day or so, I have now drilled the holes ready and will splice they in to the main ring main of lighting harness, hopefully tomorrow or the next day...………..once this has been done, I can get on with the building. 




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I have a 10 way switch to fit to each of micks and my models....these allow the plugs from the different features such as lights, spot and search lights and radar to be switched on/off, and then this is connected to the receiver......I have already determined the position in micks boat, as there are no internals going into the cabin, but with my boat I wonder, 

if I fit it to the underside of the deck at the stern, will the brushless motors interfere with the switch and receiver electrically or not, as they would sit almost directly above the motors. they have both had plasticard boxes made to encase them against water ingress or physical damage. 

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now that all of the main cabin deck lights have been added I masked up around the brackets and such for the flying bridge hand rails etc. the stuff I use for small masking jobs is Humbrol Maskol. this is a rubbery compound that paints on to the surface and prevents overpainting.....once the painted area dries, the Maskol just rubs off.


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Then it was the turn of the interior of the cabin.........the windows on the outsides were thoroughly masked with both Maskol and then masking tape to stop over spray, to the exterior, and then sprayed satin black from the inside...….

this was only needed on the Speedline boat , as micks is having no interior detail and is having blacked out windows. 


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in general, the quality of the parts in this "super kit" is superb, but there are so many frustrating little things that have actually made me sad at times, and angry at others...….

tonight I set about putting the sticky black precut tape around the window "glass" before inserting into the window frames of the cabin, on the Speedline model....……

imagine my frustration when, after putting the black vinyl onto the two shaped forward windows, and then progressing from the front 3 windows to the four oblong windows, I find a miss print of the wider vinyl black frames...……….there are 4 of the thinner framing pieces, fine...…….right number, and then going on to find that ONLY THREE of the wider framing transfers have been printed...…………..ITS NOT BLOODY ROCKET SCIENCE to draw 4 transfers on the sheet  for 4 windows, instead to leaving the builder just 3 to play with...……….

luckily I have plenty of black vinyl stick on sheeting and have solved the problem by starting to make a frame from my supplies...…………………..but this omission SHOULD NOT HAPPEN...…….not at the price of this kit...………….and how long would it take to get one replacement frame...…....god only knows...…………..I really will be glad when this build is finished.

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the centre of the last window has been cut out, and the window is almost a perfect match for the others. 


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the hand rails on the flying bridge of both boats have now also been brush painted using a perfect match grey from Humbrol to the Halfords polar grey spray paint used for the deck rails and stanchions.


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And finally for this mornings work...……..when Dave sprayed my models, he forgot to spray the small flat transom on the Speedline boat that takes the station name. and so I got out a rattle can of Baliol blue, masked the stern and rear of cabin off and gave the small area a lick of paint. 


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OK OK OK Ill have to give you 11/10  for that one  lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 


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stavros wrote:
OK OK OK Ill have to give you 11/10  for that one  lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 


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FROM YOU MATEY...…………. that is the equivalent of an honorary degree....cheers, much appreciated....………...oh yes, forgot i'm picking one of those up in July………..wonder if they'll give it me in model boat building lol. 


and now to the next stage...…….

now to the next stage...………..fitting the belting.
as I said earlier I have two choices that my kit came with...….the original hard moulded belting which had to be abandoned after just 3 sets of moulds were mate...………...and what is now supplied the softer rubber.
I finally after dry fitting each set a few times, I have chosen the hard moulded compound, and for two reasons.
1] it looks more realistic and nearer to the real boats than the rubber set. and 2] whilst cleaning some hard residue from the rubber ones this afternoon whilst dry fitting, I plucked the surface with my finger nail...…..
so if a finger nail can disfigure them enough to show, then the concrete ponds that I sail in will rip them apart eventually...……...and you can't really start filling groves in rubber...…...so the choice has been made...…….hard over soft. 

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working to a time scale now...…..a pre destined date set from circumstances I can no longer escape from, and so have been working today, not normal for a grand prix day, lol...………...even though I refuse to pay those robbing bar stewards sky for the privilege of watching it live, it is still a day of rest lol. 

but today, I noticed that I hadn't painted the separation strip between the rubber belting on micks boat as I had promised Stav……….so masked that off and hand painted with Humbrol enamel.

then it was on to the array of buttons and dials for the flying bridge...….there is method in my madness as these are just small parts.

but if I don't do them now, it will be more difficult to apply once the main mast is set in place, as my fingers are just not that nimble any more...…...later, once the paint has dried I'll stick them on both boats...……….

I also, with agreement with mick, used a waterproof fabric pen to apply rivets [ to replace the nickel silver ones that are printed on the Speedline model] on the engine access plates on the top of the superstructure roof...….using a guide I did as best as my shaky hands would allow.

onward and inexorably, I march for a definite delivery date of July 2nd 2030...……………...nah, I don't mean it mick...……..will 2019 do you...…..that's 5 weeks this coming Tuesday!!!   affraid affraid affraid affraid Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed 


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Tomorrow I pick up a glue called CT1  from a company near me, which is both waterproof and super strength, that I am going to add the belting with...……….close your ears and prepare for foul language emanating from upt norf.
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top and bottom beginning to look good together.


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another job I have had to remake is the large waterproof access hatch at the stern...…


was nothing wrong with the original one, but sadly made of timber, and stored incorrectly for a good few months since I made and fitted it...……...it has since warped and rode up at opposing corners,

so I used it for a template and remade it using 3mm plastic card, and weighted it down whilst gluing and setting with two batteries and 5 ltrs of thinners, lol. 


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