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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:08 pm | |
| unfortunately when I was drilling out the centre, I inadvertently damaged the top flange of the funnels, and so have replaced those with a thin strip of 0.8mm plasticard. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:10 pm | |
| photos to follow. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:55 pm | |
| Can't you use a plug within the mold ? It would save heaps of resin. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:30 pm | |
| was told on another forum to pour half the resin in as it is quick set in 4 minutes, and rotate the mould after pouring and whilst setting like on hollow egg chocolate moulds................so will try that on the next set........think it'll work as the resin is so quick setting. neil. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:34 pm | |
| next "little" job is to make the lifeboat......these vessels were fitted in their time with either a lifeboat in their early days or a "sea rider" Rib in later times..........I have for our vessel decided to equip the model with a lifeboat, and so decided to carve one of each ( a transom stern and a double ender ) as the plans at the moment I can't make out which it is. I love whittling a lump of timber with a few knives and abrasive paper, so this is no hardship........more a labour of love. I start with a piece of obeche cut to overall dimensions, and mark first the plan shape onto the boat...........this has had to be estimated as I can't find a plan view of the boat at present. Once this has been cut on my band saw, I marked both the sheer and the stem and stern shape which I have a shape for. Once this has been cut, I have started carving with craft knives starting with the bilge area. Some might ask.........but what about the stem and keel for the boat................. ahh, I say.......once the boat has been carved to shape, I then cut it down the centre line on the band saw and insert a keel of correct shape between the two halves and glue it all together............simples. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:06 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:51 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:32 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:06 pm | |
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vnkiwi Deck Hand
Posts : 6 Join date : 2011-06-11 Age : 75 Location : Hamilton NZ
| Subject: heavy cars Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:34 pm | |
| Neil, re your to heavy cars. I know this is a touchy subject, but if its a one off, just for yourself, you could use the cast models you have and hollow cast them in resin, as your other parts. Would be much lighter, and as you already have purchased the original models, can't see any harm in doing it as a one off for yourslf. cheers vnkiwi | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:48 pm | |
| cheers matey................My daughter has decided that she doesn't want all of them on at any one time and so they'll be on a rotation basis I think..............as the decks were never full when I remember them from sailing on them.............but worth a thought...........the thing is I am going to have to think of a way of anchoring them to the deck or they would be nicked down the lake at Fleetwood............once had a trawl door nicked from one of my big trawlers.................what ain't glued down will disappear, lol...........I'd be left with no vehicles at all after a day on the bank. |
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carlmt Midshipman
Posts : 83 Join date : 2011-07-25 Age : 61 Location : Redditch, Worcestershire
| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:27 pm | |
| Thanks for posting up the link to here Neil - mighty decent of you chap!!! Now I can get back on with my education (Was having withdrawal symptoms not being able to follow this build................. ) Carl | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:32 pm | |
| you are most welcome matey.................glad you came over to view the build................and any questions you have, just fire away, |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:13 pm | |
| I got down to making the davits for the lifeboats today...this has been a little bone of contention between me and ME!...... Firstly where there boats on both port and starboard, second, were they both double enders or transom stern'd..........I eventually found a picture of her port side and saw that that boat was a transom stern whilst the pics of the starboard side show a double ender................so vindication for me in making one of each boat. Next was to find photos of the davits........................found some of a model I saw some time ago, and with those I have, plus ones I have found on the internet images, have come up with probably as best shape I can.......... starting with some rough sketch and then transferring this to card, I cut out a template, before transferring it to plasticard in 3 layers...the centre fillet a slightly different shape to the others to allow the cables to run up the rear of the davits. the bases were made using the plans and photos to get what I could see as the shape on images, and the hydraulic rams made from plastic tubing. In three separate sections, they will be set in plasticine this evening and moulded in rubber waiting for casting at a later stage |
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barriew Captain (moderator)
Posts : 2631 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 84 Location : Thaxted, Essex
| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:19 pm | |
| Very neat Neil. Barrie | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:40 pm | |
| the mould boxes made, masters placed into the boxes and rubber cast..........the moulds are open faced except for the main davits which will be split moulded |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:35 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:56 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:10 pm | |
| you're up late matey..............or should that be early, lol. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:46 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:48 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:09 pm | |
| ahh well, Damien........there in lies a tale...............when I pulled the little mouldings out of the rubber tonght, the inner surface of the resin hadn't gone off and was still sticky, ......I think I had not mixed the resin properly as it comes in 50/50 two part mix, and so I re mixed some more painted it into the rubber and then pressed the sticky moulding back into the rubber mould..........It was also terribly thin and wafery, so I added another two layers of tissue into the inside of the mould..............will see what it comes out like tomorrow..........both mouldings were the same so I think I dropped one somewhere...........but practice will make perfect, lol |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:31 pm | |
| I'm confident they come out fine. Glad to see I'm not the only one who has these nasty whoops'es. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:50 pm | |
| my life is full of nasty whoops'es, Damien...........I wouldn't be me if I didn't lol |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:52 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:25 pm | |
| filler..........if a lot will do when little is needed..........I'm all for it, lol..... take the mast for instance...... I cut the basic shape from obeche.........nice carving and sanding timber............. carved the initial rounded shape to the leading edge of it and then sanded down to a nice even rounded shape. I then added the rear flanges to the mast by adding to the sides, some 120 gram card, in two layers to give some thickness, before filling the thickness out by adding to the inner faces making up to the rear of the mast with a further two layers of the same card, before finally giving it a good dollop of polyester filler to fair in the card to the wooden core. It will all be sanded off before giving liberal coats of sanding sealer.. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:50 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:31 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:41 pm | |
| well, the windlass is now ready for moulding. The brake mechanisms have been fabricated from plasticard and 0.8mm brass wire, soft soldered. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:29 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:20 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:52 pm | |
| tonight I have raised the surrounding bulwarks around the top and perimeter of the flying bridge, using 1.2mm birch ply and two part epoxy resin adhesive. the two curved sections either side of the raised grp front section were cut from the end of the ply with the primary grain of the timber running vertically instead of the norm, horizontally, so as to aid bending around the curve.. next stage will be to clean up all the window and door recesses before filling all gaps with polyester filler and sanding smooth. |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:03 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:40 am | |
| cheers matey.......getting to enjoy the build a little more now that fabrication is taking place. |
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barriew Captain (moderator)
Posts : 2631 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 84 Location : Thaxted, Essex
| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:50 pm | |
| - nhp651 wrote:
- cheers matey.......getting to enjoy the build a little more now that fabrication is taking place.
I had noted that things seemed to have speeded up Coming along nicely Barrie | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:31 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:12 pm | |
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barriew Captain (moderator)
Posts : 2631 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 84 Location : Thaxted, Essex
| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:15 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:26 am | |
| cheers barrie............more to come, lol |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:57 pm | |
| I am getting to the stage now wherethe building takes over from the fittings and as such I have a couple of problems.......... both the shelter decks of the car deck and the deck above have to be fitted out before the next layer goes on as there is a wealth of detail under each shelter deck........... the lower car deck has had it's superstructure added and can now be detailed, but the plans for the vessel are a little vague and I spent some time today studying photos set along side the plans, and have finally worked out where the superstructures for the aft end shelters go and are located. Tonight I fabricated this rear set of structures from 3mm birch ply, which not only gives correct detailing but also a good support for the grp moulding of the superstructure to be added once detailing has been added........... pictures below of the construction of the superstructure to be fitted. |
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carlmt Midshipman
Posts : 83 Join date : 2011-07-25 Age : 61 Location : Redditch, Worcestershire
| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:19 pm | |
| Looking bloody good Neil I find this so inspirational.............. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:59 pm | |
| cheers carl..................guess what these bits are............. answer in a photo below lol |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:19 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:00 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:46 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:25 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jupiter, a Caledonian macBrayne Ferry Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:15 pm | |
| every time I look at the photos, thinking I am ready to put the decks on, or even thinking of detailing the bulwarks, I find yet more fittings that need to be made before I put the decks on.............. last night it was one of the extraction vents, and some lockers.........so made those last night......more to add to the ever growing collection of things to paint and some to cast, lol. the big problem is that there are no measurements for quite a lot of these fittings, as they are not shown on the plans available so they have to be gauged from other fittings around them and from the height of a scale 6' figure............so some is guess work.........but as the ship went for scrap long ago, anyone who would wish to argue has one standard reply aimed at them, lol.........If ya can do better , then go away and show me. And just to show that I am no rivet counter or a stickler for exact precision......the black top to the vent stack.......was actually made from the top cover of one of my daughter's make up pen's..........was just the right shape for me........so what she doesn't know is missing, won't hurt her, lol..........she'll never miss it anyway, and looks fine to me. |
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