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PostSubject: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptyWed Oct 13, 2021 6:23 pm

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This is my new project. Its not quite what it appears Rolling Eyes The kit had been started - rather more than started actually, and then dismantled. I think that I am going to have to re-make all the hull parts including the keels and formers. Many have already been remade, and not very well. Others are in a bad way and will need a lot of sanding to remove old glue if nothing else. 

More photos when I've sorted it out.

To help me I've just ordered a Dremel scroll saw, and am hoping to buy a disc sander as well - got to spend the results of my boat sales lol! lol!

Barrie

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PostSubject: Re: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptyThu Oct 14, 2021 4:07 pm

As promised - photos of the hull components. These are much worse than I originally thought Rolling Eyes

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More had been done than I thought. I suspect the two halves had been glued together, and planking attempted.
I have three options as far as I can see
1. Remake all the hull components from 2mm birch ply.
2. Try to find a suitable FG or ABS hull
3. Tip it all in the skip and write it off as a bad buy Shocked

Watch this space....

Barrie

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PostSubject: Re: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptySat Oct 16, 2021 6:31 pm

No progress yet - waiting for materials - but this arrived yesterday.

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I guess that means I have at least to attempt to re-make the hull components.  Rolling Eyes

The blade fixing is a little tricky, particularly if wanting to cut internal shapes.

Barrie

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PostSubject: Re: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptyMon Oct 18, 2021 8:52 am

Hi BarrieW,
Looks like you have your work cut out ( sorry about the pun.)
I am sure that with your skills you will soon knock this into shape.
Good luck with the build.
I will be following.

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PostSubject: Re: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptyFri Oct 22, 2021 7:56 pm

Hi Barrie - that's one of the hulls built in halves as you probably already know from the instructions - they actually work quite well - have both the Norden and the Lilla Dan built the same way - the frames are usually quite accurate so probably easier to replace only the really bad ones - in my case the two halves fitted together well - after planking - 1/2 deck holds the frames accurately - however Billings were usually quite stingy with the Obeche planking - not a lot to spare - so that could well be problematic if some has already been used - (in the case of the Norden planking was pine - also used for the deck they were so thin - believe the later kits were Obeche). Its a nice build and an interesting subject - there was one at my old club - sailed well too. Looking forward to the build.

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PostSubject: Re: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptySat Oct 23, 2021 9:29 am

Peter - I've built a few of these Billings half-hull models. They are easier to keep true than a full hull when planking. The problem with this one is that it had been built up before. I thought that they had given up when they tried planking, but no - they had actually got as far as sticking the two halves together - with what looks like Evostick Shocked Shocked

All the frames are in a bad way, some have already been re-made, and others patched up, so re-making all is the only option for a reasonable result. One of the hull halves is patched and the other incomplete. Everything has glue residues.

My plan is to cut and shape one set of frames. If that goes well, I'll cut the second so I can ensure they are identical. Next will be one hull half, and fixing the frames to that.

There is not enough planking material to do one half Rolling Eyes I will see what I have in stock. If I don't have enough then I will look for a new supply to cover the whole hull. 

At the moment, I rate my chances of actually building this as 50/50. At some point I am quite likely to consign it to the recycle bag.

The Boothbay Lobster boats keeps looking more and more attractive lol! lol! lol!

Barrie
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PostSubject: Re: Billings St Canute   Billings St Canute EmptySat Oct 23, 2021 11:43 am

Sorry about that - sounds really bad Barrie - quite a lot of work to get the frames & keel re cut - plus planking is no longer cheap if you need to buy any  Have you checked all the other bits & pieces for any shortfall in those ?. With that type of seller there may be more missing - presume you at least got the plans & instructions (l have them somewhere in case you need) its the sort of thing that needs to be reported to EBay - just because the seller may have said some pieces may be mssing etc does not mean they should get way with this sort of thing .

I hope you are able to complete this build though - makes for a great model. Perhaps the Lobster boat can be the next - on my redesign of the Bass Boat the intention is to resort to a normal keel and use Les Rowells Aerokit method to reinforce it as done with the Tour Master - with the deck fitted it makes a pretty sturdy frame to keep the kinks out........

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