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Tug--Kenny
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PostSubject: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 3:26 pm

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Hi everyone

I have fallen in love with the Titanic. I have joined the Titanic research society and acquired over 15 books on the subject and am continuing to learn more about her every day.

To this end, I have started scratch building this beautiful ship. There are no kits available bigger than 1:350 scale and as I wanted to build a larger one, the only way is to scratch build one. There are very limited drawings on this ship as the originals were retained by Harland & Wolff, and some were destroyed (in shame!). There are some partial model drawings around along with plenty of pictures so I was able to get most part details all together in my build book. This is updated every time new information comes in..

I have started my build at 1:175 scale, which produces a model around Five and a half foot long.

Here is a quick run through of the build along with some of the errors, which had to be corrected. I am trying to represent the actual ship as she sailed on her maiden voyage.


First we started by cutting out the frames. The dimensions were estimated from various pictures as were most of what you are about to see.



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This was then planked.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 3:34 pm

A lot of filler was used as we wanted a smooth surface to cover with plating.


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The rudder was made out of brass.


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The motors were lined up and fittings arranged.


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The major wood structures were cut to shape and some paper funnels placed on top. (just for the fun of it)


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 3:46 pm

Sheep's guts comes to mind

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The deck houses and buildings were first of all cut out of plywood. The intention being to cover this with a plastic wall.


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The propeller shafts had to be laid in with filler.


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All three upper decks sized up for effect


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The funnels were made out of MacDonalds coffee stirrers and plywood.

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 3:57 pm

More top deck buildings were made

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The Wing Bridge was then started. Please note .. this was built three more times as improvements came along.


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The famous Roof glass over the Grand staircase was attempted.


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Masts cut to size


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Guess who Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 4:01 pm

Kenny,

Brilliant...Keep the photos coming please Smile Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 4:16 pm


Thanks Barry. I'm having fun here I can tell you. I'm cherry picking the the photos as I don't want to show up my bad workmanship too much. Very Happy
(you sitting out of the sun as well) sunny



I'm not saying they were tiny but I've lost a few on the floor already. Embarassed


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Next it was sand the hull and prime it.


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This was then covered in filler


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This was smoothed down and hundreds of small pieces of 0.7mm plastic were cut as plates and glued on. The layout is as per titanic hull was built.

This job was done three times to get it right and cost a fortune in plastic sheeting and super glue.


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One month later .........
The sides were Butt joined and small strips covered the gaps


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 4:36 pm

It was then the turn of the insides, where we started on the battery box.


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Then we went back and re did the hull with thinner strips.


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Finally with all the large 'stuff' fitted inside it was time to seal down the first deck

(deck C .. the Promenade deck)



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Beginning to take shape


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The funnels were covered in plastic which has been riveted with a nail by hand.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 4:45 pm

The funnels were cut to their correct lengths and designed to rise in height from number one to number three, whilst number four was slightly lower. (as per the real ones)


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Oh No !! it's the builder


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The funnels were under-coated


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The height of the funnels were reduced as new information came in.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 4:55 pm

WINDOW time

There are over 600 windows to cut out on the Titanic. Some are square. Some are round and some are elliptical.

What I needed was a jig to 'punch them out' so I made the following from steel and fitted it to the pillar drill. This was switched off and just used as a 'Fly press'


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Here's the first three strips laid across the bulwarks


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The 4.5mm window holes were drilled starting with a small hole to keep them in line.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 5:24 pm

The then thought about planking the deck.

Various methods were considered and tried, starting with printed card.



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The main decks smoothed out


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Plating was riveted


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and applied to the hull



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and under-coated


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All primed and ready for top coat


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 5:33 pm

The funnels were coloured by mixing paints until we got the the shade we wanted.

No-one really knows the true colour as there is no record.



For the Hull we used a Black silk spray paint


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This was masked off and a red was sprayed on top, which made for a darker shade of red.

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The rudder was completed


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 5:43 pm

Back up on deck was more work to be done. It's getting to be smaller parts now


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We then got on with covering the deck houses


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And wallpapering the Cafe Parisienne



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and adding a few special design windows. This deck will be coved by the side windows and only on view if you squint inside the windows. Should keep the rivet counters amused. Very Happy



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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 5:51 pm

Cor blimey Ken, rather you than me with those windows mate lol! Still got 200+ slots to cut in the Type 7 sub...

Looking great, did that clearfix work in the end?
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 5:59 pm

I agree with you. Loads of windows in line can be monotonous, but it was very satisfying to punch them out.

In fact I got several out of line (after the first 100) and had to re-do the whole sheet three times. Hence my previous comments about repeating myself on this build.




Trying out the fake planking. This did not prove to be a success and was replaced by later modifications.


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The staircase ceiling glass


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Funnel vents for air into the cabins


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More flooring


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Then we started on the Bow


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 6:09 pm

As you may have noticed, the decking is now Veneered. We used Box wood veneer at £10 a sheet and got through three sheets before we learnt how to cut it without fraying the edges


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The hatches were made from solid wood


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Coming together quite nicely now so I'll close for a while

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 6:11 pm

brilliant, kenny.

just to tell you though that if you are ever flush, there is a kit [ well a semi kit really] available from the states..rare and expensive.....it is at 1;144 scale and costs a massive £1400 to import from the states....then you have to buy the plans from a chap in germany called robert hahn and they cost another £250 quid.
i bought a complete semi kit about 6 years ago off ebay at a bargain price,. but never got round to building, but my god it was absolutely stunning.
the thing that put me off was the bickering in the titanic model association website, wnen people were litterally counting rivets on plates and saying perfectly good models were wrong in so many details....mainly american subscribers, i'm sorry to say....

but i love your model...just superb, and a real credit to you.
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 6:37 pm

Wonderful job Ken.

Now all you need is someone to carry and launch it for you, then someone to salvage it
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 6:47 pm

Fantastic build there Kenny,keep it up. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 7:19 pm

Brilliant Job there Kenny,
On tv at moment,a series of people recreating parts of the real Titanic,what an exclusive ship,so sad it did'nt last very long
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 8:10 pm

nhp651 wrote:
brilliant, kenny.

just to tell you though that if you are ever flush, there is a kit [ well a semi kit really] available from the states..rare and expensive.....it is at 1;144 scale and costs a massive £1400 to import from the states....then you have to buy the plans from a chap in germany called robert hahn and they cost another £250 quid.
i bought a complete semi kit about 6 years ago off ebay at a bargain price,. but never got round to building, but my god it was absolutely stunning.
the thing that put me off was the bickering in the titanic model association website, wnen people were litterally counting rivets on plates and saying perfectly good models were wrong in so many details....mainly american subscribers, i'm sorry to say....

but i love your model...just superb, and a real credit to you.
neil.

Hi Neil

Yes, I've witnessed all of the above and sit on the sidelines. I have learnt an awful lot since joining but also had loads of info which helped me in this quest.

Thank you for the kind comments. I'm at the nice stage now with the fitting out. (the best part of any build) Loads more to come.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 8:20 pm

DickyD wrote:
Wonderful job Ken.

Now all you need is someone to carry and launch it for you, then someone to salvage it
.RMS Titanic Titani14



Thanks Dicky. It was quite a challenge eh !!

I'm hoping Steamboat Phil will be on hand to rescue her like he did with Aziz. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 8:21 pm

cpt jack sparrow wrote:
Fantastic build there Kenny,keep it up. Smile


Thanks Jack. Glad you like it

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 8:40 pm

Mark wrote:
Brilliant Job there Kenny,
On tv at moment,a series of people recreating parts of the real Titanic,what an exclusive ship,so sad it didn't last very long
Mark


Thanks Mark. Yes I know the series. It was hard engineering in those days. All for a four day boat trip. pale

If you type " Titanic" into 'You Tube' it comes up with everything you could wish to know, and even stuff you didn't. There are quite a few History channel films (over one and a half hours each) which I have been watching and learning. I have all the know photographs of her so far. New ones come to light rarely.

The quest goes on and on, especially as next year will be the Hundredth anniversary of her sinking (so kindly brought up by my good friend DickyD) I even have the passenger list and have come up with a namesake. That made me shudder, I can tell you.

Mine will not be a sinking version as it will be fitted with lights/sound/motors/computer/smoke. I'm throwing everything into her that I can afford.

Yesterday I completed the lifeboats. There were only 18 so it only took a few days. Details to follow in the Blog


Cheers

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 8:54 pm

The next project was the Cranes. There are eight cranes on board Titanic for loading goods into the holds.

My first attempt was as follows.

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It wasn't until paint time that I realised I'd only built Six cranes. As I wasn't happy with the design, they were scrapped and eight new ones built.

The lifeboats were carved from solid wood and painted white.



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While the paint was drying I made an access cover for the rudder mechanism.



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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 9:04 pm

On the Bow there is little crane to load the third Anchor in case of emergency.


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The forward hatches were painted and glued in place


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B deck was glued to C deck permanently. thus hiding the wallpapered cafe underneath.


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The centre anchor was made and fitted into the bow section for effect. We have to paint the side walls yet.


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A new section was fitted to the bow bulwarks as the previous pieces were damaged


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 9:11 pm

The centre anchor is fitted along with the new cranes


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Oh No !! it's me again. ( I'm only there to show the scale of the model)



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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 9:28 pm

wonderful build a credit to your efforts
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 9:37 pm



Thank you GWA84. Much appreciated.



Here she is with most of the attachments fitted


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On to the notorious Lifeboats.

There were 16 on the upper deck and two collapsables on the Bridge roof.


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I'm not sure about the Red ropes. A bit garish so I might paint them white all over.



Davits have been made and fitted to lifeboats in blocks of four and placed on deck.


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Those two lovers are back to check over the new boat. I think they like the new railings from a train set (N gauge ...what luck I could cut them to size)



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Well that's the build to date. It's taken Six months so far but there is more to do before we finish.

Thank you for reading

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 10:21 pm

Excellent cheers and a good insight to the build, thanks for sharing. Smile Smile Smile

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 7:05 am

I am really looking forward to watching her sink!!! Oops I mean sail..... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 10:07 am

That's absolutely fantastic! Really impressed! Keep the pics coming.

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 10:17 am

Footski wrote:
I am really looking forward to watching her sink!!! Oops I mean sail..... Twisted Evil


Thank you Guys.

Barry, Enclosed picture of the 520 holes in the hull


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You might get your wish if I can't find a way of glazing them. Very Happy I'm working on several ideas at the moment, but whichever way i choose, is going to be labour intensive. With these knees, I am down to working only 4 hours a day now lol!

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptySat Jun 18, 2011 9:54 pm

What a brilliant model Ken, how I envy you lads the skills that you have. Congratulations I look forward to seeing the finished model.

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 12:52 pm



Thanks Chris,

I've bought some Humbrol Clear fix to fill the port holes so there's something new for me to try. Hammering in the small plastic glazing pieces didn't work out very well as they fell into the boat

I'll let you know how I get on.

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 5:24 pm

Nice build Ken, particularly like the idea of making a punch for the windows, will bear it in mind for the future.

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 9:55 pm

Very nice build log Ken. and a very nice result. I think it's great to see that you make so many parts only of wood. It shows what a marvelous material timber is
Keep going the good work.
we wait in anticipation. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 10:23 pm

top notch matey...... i love it.
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 10:33 am

Thank you for your comments.. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

More of the blog when I can

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 12:47 pm

Kenny I have just been catching up on the new forum and found your build.
A lovely job but rather you than me with all those windows/portholes
I found it bad enough doing about 80 ports on my destroyer.
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 8:14 pm

Hi Geoff, thanks for that. Here's a picture of the filled portholes.

Unfortunately, it turned out NOT to be water proof so it all had to be removed. I'm presently looking into using epoxy, so that's the next challenge.



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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyFri Jun 24, 2011 10:43 am

Leaving the problem of the portholes aside, I have been decorating the decks. I find this is the best part of any build as you then have something to show the good lady.

I have secured the lifeboats and started on the railings. Luckily the model rail gauge "N" is about the same size so I've used their model fences. These had to hacked about and cut to size, but it's still better than trying to make them.


Funnel 1

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Funnel 4

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I forgot to add that the deck edges were fitted with 'T' shape extruded plastic to cover the joins and provide a secure base for the fences.

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The white upper hull has been tidied up and now awaits the glazing.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 9:00 am

Joined this forum yesterday.

What a fascinating project and congratulations on the build.

Looking forward to seeing the images of the completed project.

Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 8:06 pm

Thank you Adrian and welcome to the Forum. Very Happy Very Happy It's a nice place to be.

On with the build. The last few days have been spent going miniature. It seems quite a change from cutting 3 fooy lengths of timber.

I have fitted more of the railings around her.
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I then re-vamped the 2nd class passenger entrance and this is the third version.

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Now it was time to make the compass platform. This second compass was fitted on the original ship away from magnetic interference.

This took two attempts as it was only 10mm square and 8mm high. the legs kept falling of so I had to drill location holes for them. The legs then protruded through the base so a floor had to be made to cover them up.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 8:13 pm

Here's a few shots of the ship at present.


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I thought I'd take a picture of her to simulate a pasenger's view of the ship from the quay side.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 8:15 pm

An overall picture if the progress to date.


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 8:32 pm

Looking good Ken. Smile Smile Smile Smile

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 8:38 pm

Cheers Matt. There's still stuff to do.

The props are out because the engines go in tomorrow. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 9:11 pm

a bonny looking ship indeed....always had a soft spot for that old girl and her sisters.........my favorite was the britanic with her large capacity boat derricks........would this be the next on your list, kenny...nice white hull and green stripes.....luvly jubbly
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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 9:31 pm

Oh no !! I thought the Britannic was top heavy in the lifeboat derricks department.

The way is now open for you to fulfil your dream. Smile


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PostSubject: Re: RMS Titanic   RMS Titanic EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 10:31 pm

Heheheh that was a good one Ken. Now you've really played the ball.
Keep up the good log Ken.
A joy to watch.
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