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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Sep 20, 2021 9:43 pm

That's a smart wheelhouse it'll look good lit up.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 21, 2021 10:03 am

Hi Swab

i do so hope so, starting work on the lights later on today, I will have the normal Nav lights along with one inside the wheelhouse and a sport light on the roof.

All lights are LED's

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 4:40 pm

Hi One & All

I have now found time to take some photo's of the wheelhouse lit up 

Lights on in day light

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And at Night

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 5:12 pm

Hi Fred,

I have a question.

Is the door facing aft when fitted on the boat ?

If so you have temporally fitted the Nav lights the wrong way round.
I imagine  you have only fitted then just to show us the effect.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 6:38 pm

Hi Martin

I do see just what you are saying, but no the door is at the front of the wheelhouse, some people put it off to the side and make it a sliding door. they say it looks better than having it at the front.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 6:42 pm

Hi Fred,

Excellent.
I must admit it did have me thinking.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 6:52 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 9:09 pm

Fred are those white leds in a coloured holder?
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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 7:44 am

Hi Swab

I used coloured 3mm LED's for the Nav lights, a white SMD for the spotlight and a Micro Liz SMD for the wheelhouse.

They will all be wired into a voyage reducer giving out 3 volts that way I will not have to use any resisters. 

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 8:08 am

Hi Fred,
Can you give us a little more information on the Voltage reducer and where it can be purchased from.
And maybe a photo of it ?

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 4:04 pm

Hi One & All




Martin has asked about the voltage reducer that I have used for my LED lights on the Guardsman. I am only using this as the amount of room I have available in the Guardsman is on the small side, and by doing away with the resisters I only have to use two wires for the mast lights.




The one that I am going to use in the Guardsman is an ultra small dc-dc step down module 

Input voltage: 4.5-28V

Output Voltage: 0.8-20V
Output current: rated current 3A(MAX).
Switching Frequency: 1.5MHz (highest), typical 1MHz
Output Ripple: < 30mV
Efficiency: 96% (max)
Operating temperature: -40 Celsius to +85 Celsius
The size of the unit is 22mm x17mm
At a cost of £1.99 
eBay number 193774719501
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This is the one I have set up as my LED test rig





  • LM2596 DC-DC Buck converter

  • Input voltage: 4V ~ 35V

  • The output voltage: 1.23V ~ 30V

  • Output Current: 3A (Max)

  • Conversion efficiency: 92 %( MAX)

  • Output ripple: <30mV

  • Switching frequency: 150 KHz

  • At a cost of £2.39 each

  • eBay number 203617794036

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I hope that this is of some help as for the mini one I will report back when I have it set up in the boat along with photo's




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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 4:22 pm

Thank you Fred.
Very interesting.
I also like the one you use for testing your LED's.

I am sure this information has now sparked of many ideas.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 6:13 pm

Hi One & All


Thank you Martin yes it does speed things up when you are wiring up SMD's I have noticed that the Neg side of a SMD has a corner cut off, but the test it is for peace of mind.


One other thing I am going to try out is a light control sensor at £2.85 for a DIY kit.


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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 8:07 pm

Hi Fred,
Just to through you out not all SMD LED's have the corners cut out to indicate the Cathode.

I worked for a quite a few years as a surface mount operator and had a lot of fun producing circuit boards.(NOT)
I lied it was not all fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 10:08 pm

https://www.componentshop.co.uk/voltage-reducer-with-led-display-input-3-5v-30v-output-1-2v-30v.html
This is the one I'm using its more expensive than Fred's i just hope it lasts it does work though so far Im going to upgrade the lighting in my yacht so I may use another to power that as it's going to cause light pollution.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 24, 2021 7:44 am

Thank you Swab for that information.

I must add these things to my book marks before i forget.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 11, 2021 4:04 pm

Hi One & All

Now that things are back up and running it's time to do some more on the Guardsman.

I used a laser Leveller to set the water line, it did not work out to bad I think.

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Now for the other side, and this what happened when I took the tape off,  bad prep on my behalf, the paint flaked off.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 11, 2021 4:12 pm

I have gone and cheated with regards to the hand winch, I got the smallest one from MMM, not a bad kit I must say.
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I have also for the first time made one of the skylight open, that meant making some small hinges ( I need to practice some more)

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 11, 2021 7:51 pm

Hi Fred,
It is the little things like the open skylight that brings life in to your model.
Keep it coming.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 12, 2021 9:11 am

Hi One & All

Yes Martin as you say it is the little things that bring our models to life,  back in the day we used cotton wool for smoke now we have water vaper units, our boats sailed with no crew now we can get crew at any scale thanks to 3d printers, the list just goes on.

But in the end just who see's all these little things only us, the public do not see them, they just see a model boat that looks nice. (Off soap box) 

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 12, 2021 8:00 pm

Hi Fred,
The main thing is you do what makes you happy after all it is your boat.
But i do agree the models we make now are so different and have a lot more working bits and pieces.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 21, 2021 12:29 pm

Hi One and All

Now that most of the job's SWMBO has had me doing I have got back to the Guardsman.

One of the things that needed doing was to sort out the hull paint, as the paint that I used for below the waterline reacted with the paint that I used above the waterline, I flattened all the paint and primed it all again this time I left it for three day's and not the twenty four hours so that it would be well and truly hard, as I had run out of red final coat I went along to my local chain outlet (H) for a new can, and yes that has reacted with the primer, so back to square one for me, conclusion do not mix paint all ways use the paint from the same supplier.

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PostSubject: Its Winter   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 14, 2021 12:11 pm

Hi One & All

Well its starting to look like winter, (as the song goes) so I have now moved in doors, SWMBO is not to happy with it but she does go along with it in the end.

The one thing that I am unable to do is the painting, so hoping for a fine dry day.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 17, 2021 4:08 pm

Hi One & All

Boy what a different it is working in doors,

So today I have done the bases for the funnel and the engine room.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 17, 2021 8:10 pm

Yes Fred, it is nice when you are not working in the cold.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 18, 2021 6:10 pm

So true Martin

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 21, 2021 5:09 pm

Fred 1948 wrote:
Hi One & All

I used a laser Leveller to set the water line, it did not work out to bad I think.

Fred
Fred - what sort of laser leveller do you have? I've been thinking of buying one, but am confused by the choice. Not looking to spend a fortune Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 21, 2021 7:55 pm

Hi Barriew


The one that I have is ZOKOUN 2 Lines Green Laser Level Self Levelling Cross-Line Measure Wall Mount UK, I got it off eBay at a cost of £36.89, I would think that you could find one like it at a lower cost.


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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 21, 2021 7:59 pm

Thanks Fred - I'll keep looking!

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 5:44 pm

I'd trawl Aldi special buys they have all sorts appear.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 6:09 pm

Yes  there's no rush. My next model only arrived today lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 27, 2021 9:51 am

Hi One & All

Now that the weather has changed for the worst I have had to fully move in doors, so no more spraying, that meant I could only work on the deck fittings. the first one that I started on was the Companion Shelter ( that's what it is called on the drawings) I think I will have to put some portholes in the sides.

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I just have to make and fit the hingers now.

I then move onto the Boiler Casing & Engine Room Skylight, now these will be sprayed in time.

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The tape is only holding the top's in place until I have fitted some red micro LED's.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 01, 2021 9:26 pm

I wish I could move indoors it's too cold for me in the shed at the moment it's nice to see it progressing though.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 02, 2021 8:15 am

Hi One & All

Thank you for your comments Swab, yes SWMBO is not that happy with me moving indoors, as she likes to keep it all ship shape & Bristol fashion, but as I said it is only until it gets warmer, and I only use a space about A3 size.

As for the build one thing that has come to light, and that is I must work on my windows cutting out, for some reason I just can not seem to get them all square and true, I use a set square to mark it all out but when I fix the frames, it all look out of square, after this build I will make time to practise making windows and frames.

Keep Safe and a Merry Christmas to you All

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 03, 2021 7:06 am

Swab wrote:
I wish I could move indoors it's too cold for me in the shed at the moment it's nice to see it progressing though.
My workshop is well insulated, and I have a 120 watt tubular heater that I leave on 24/7 from  December to end of February. Plus I have a 600 watt heater which I can control from my phone, and a fan heater which I use for 10 minutes if I forget to switch on  the 600 watt. Keeps me comfortable for a couple of hours.

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That was the days when I had  a heated workshop, now I only have a part of the garage so any heat that I put in just goes out via the air gaps, Great in the summer as the beer fridge is also in there with me.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 19, 2022 6:12 pm

Hi One and All

Sorry about the no post's just one thing after another.

I have been working on the deck housings over the last month, and today I tried fitting them to the deck, the wheel house fitted along with the engine room housing, but the rear crew housing looks like it has broken its back.

I took all the measurements for the deck housing from the drawings, so it must have been when I fitted the deck beams that the upturned came about, I will start by trying to make some adjustments to the front of the rear deck house and see how it looks then, if it still look bad then I will have to make a new housing.

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PostSubject: Hull paint again   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 30, 2022 12:10 pm

Hi One & All
Hope every one is keeping well.
Yesterday (29/01/22) was on the warm side so I decided to give the hull another coat of red, when I had finished the wet coat looked O.K, but this morning (30/01/22) it had gone all crazy in places, I will now let it dry for the next few day then I will cut it right back and use new plastic's primer and new red top coat.

In the mean time the first top coat of the boiler housing and funnel has been put on, the boiler housing is an cream white and yes the funnel is red.

The funnel is an old paper towel inner tube.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 31, 2022 4:00 pm

Keep up the good work Fred.
You will get there in the end.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 31, 2022 6:04 pm

Hi Martin

Glad to see you are still around, I still can not bring myself to go back to the other site full time.

So as today has been on the cold and windy side I started to make the deck grating arear. this is it just laid in place, the top will not be fixed so that I can remove it as and when I need to sort out any problems with the rudder. I do have some commercial wood grating to fix on top. 

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Hi Fred,
Yes i am still around.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 06, 2022 1:51 pm

Hi One & All

I have been working on the grating, to save myself some time I went and got some premade grating, and this is how it turned out.
I am happy with it.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 06, 2022 2:31 pm

Looks good Fred.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 07, 2022 9:23 am

Thanks Martin.
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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 13, 2022 1:36 pm

Hi One & All

Moving on I have now fitted the battery and ESC, the only thing is once I have the deck fitted I am unable to get to the battery, so I will have to work out a way to charge the battery. I will be tidying up all the wiring before fixing the deck.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 13, 2022 3:47 pm

Is the funnel and its casing fixed Fred? If that lifted off, you would have your access.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 13, 2022 5:08 pm

There's a lot of room in that hull could the battery be mounted in some slide out arrangement below the funnel structure and you ballast it down to try to compensate for the higher up weight.
I'm thinking of the type of battery compartments the off road buggies use.
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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 14, 2022 9:39 am

Hi Barriew & Swab

Yes the boiler housing is removable, but there is still no room to remove the battery. I would think that when this was first drawn up the battery's were of the dry type, I could ask Component shop to make me a set of saddle pack that would go along side the shaft.

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This how she now looks with the rear dech housing fitted, just need to fix the roof onto it.

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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 15, 2022 5:46 pm

Are you doing a cabin interior Fred?
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PostSubject: Re: Vic Smmed "Guardsman"   Vic Smmed "Guardsman" - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 15, 2022 11:21 pm

Hi Swab

I did give it some thought, but in the end I feel that I was not worth it, this was only supposed to be a quick build after all, I set myself a time of six months, it has taken me eight months so far and it is still not finished, so not a quick build after all.

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