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PostSubject: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Aug 12, 2022 6:37 pm

Hi Guys,

As you know I have not been on this site for a while but one thing lead to another or should i say life keeps getting in the way.

I now have to remember how to use the site again.

I know this is an RC model boat site but I have checked with the Moderator to see if it is ok to post this log.

This is a static model.

This is not so much a build log it is more like an in progress update log.

Years ago i was given this part started kit and it has been living up in the loft ever since forgotten.
Recently I had to go up in the loft and there it was looking at me.
Well to cut a long story short i decided to build it.

Firstly i noticed that the hull was incorrect towards the transom and needed some rework.
I removed some of the planking and reset the shape using some strips of wood.
It looks a little better but requires some filler and sanding.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 13, 2022 7:52 am

Hi Guys,
Here are a few photos of the hull after some sanding ,filling.
I would of liked to of just varnished it but due to glue and filler showing through I decided to paint it instead.
The colour scheme I got from looking around on the internet.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 13, 2022 8:27 am

Good to see you are back Martin.

This is looking good, keep it up.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 13, 2022 8:49 am

Hi Fred,
Thank you.

This is not my favourite type of boat to do but as it was given to me by my father who has recently passed away i thought i would build it in his memory.

I have got a little further with the build than posted but it wont take long for this log to catchup with the progress so far.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 13, 2022 10:02 pm

Am I right in thinking this is the same as Mutiny on the Bounty? I'm tempted by a Mantua kit but not yet i need major buttering up of the CEO to put one on display in our house.
What's the finishing process for the hull on a static build? you don't need to resin & cloth it do you?
What's HMB Bounty? why's it not HMS is it due to the science side of the trip? Question
Sorry to hear about your Father as well.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySun Aug 14, 2022 9:55 am

Hi Swab,

Thank you My father was two weeks away from his 93rd birthday.

I don't know a lot about these ships but i did do a little reading up on this one.

The vessel was renamed His Majesty's Bark (HMB) Endeavour (bark being a nautical term to describe a ship with three masts or more). Endeavour departed England in 1768 under the command of then-Lieutenant Cook.


Here is a link to a little bit of the ships history that you might find interesting.


https://www.captaincooksociety.com/home/detail/endeavour

As for the Finnish of the hulls:
There is no need for waterproofing you can paint or varnish them unless you plan on doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTExq48Pqdg

If you choose to varnish them then you wood working skills will show as would glue and fillers.

Also there are many different types of woods in these kits if varnished you will get quite a bit of colour variation.

On this model i have used a wood stain to try and even it out a little as you will see.

I do not wish to put you off but these ships do take up a bit of space and to save you periodically dusting it off a display case would be needed.
The plus side is building this type of ship is it is good to keep the brain and fingers active especially when doing the rigging.
And when finished the satisfaction of completing quite a complicated vessel.
You will also have a model to be proud of and a real talking point.

Sorry for going on a bit.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySun Aug 14, 2022 10:03 am

Hi Guys,

A few more progress photos.
As you can see i have used some wood stain and paint on this hull to hide all the mistakes LOL!!
Also fitted the rudder.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySun Aug 14, 2022 11:47 am

Fred i apologise for Endeavour i read Bounty I've no idea why maybe because I was looking up wooden boat kits and the Bounty is well served.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySun Aug 14, 2022 12:02 pm

Hi Swab,
As you have seen there are many different kits and manufacturers.
The same ship will always look different I suppose it depends on how much research the kit manufacturer dose and how much is artistic licence.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyMon Aug 15, 2022 8:25 am

Hi Guys,
Here i have started work on the deck fittings and installed the lower deadeyes.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyMon Aug 15, 2022 8:44 am

Hi Martin

You are coming along in leaps and bounds with this boat, your workmanship is so good and as for your work service I just wish mine was half as clean.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyMon Aug 15, 2022 11:03 am

Hi Fred,
The only area i have to work in and build my models is 1 bench that is approx 48" x 24" and that takes a bit of juggling around.
Sometimes I have to put my model on the floor so that I can use the bench top.
I know what you are thinking and yes I agree i will end up breaking something.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 7:47 am

Hi Guys,
A few photos of the deck fitting that I have added and the jolly boat.
The jolly boat was of plank on frame construction and painted white but I had to tone it down a bit as it was to bright and stuck out like a saw thumb.

A few more posts and I will be up to data with the progress of this ship.

As i am only skipping through this build so if you have any questions then please ask and i will do my best to answer them.

Unfortunately i did not take any photos of the making of the Cannons.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 1:46 pm

Looking really good Martin. Did you read the instructions?

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 3:08 pm

Hi Peter,

Welcome to the site.

I think I was blessed this time this kit came with two books of instructions. LOL!!

But in answer to your question  'NO' lucky there were pictures on the box, but I think the pictures on the box must of been of a different boat as mine looks nothing like or as good as it LOL!!

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 5:07 pm

Good to see more pictures of your progress Martin. It's starting to look really good now!
That Mouldbuilder chappie has got a bit of a cheek asking if you had read the instructions. I would like to meet him one day and give him a piece of my mind!

Anyway, keep up the good work.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 5:12 pm

Hi Steve,

Thank's she is getting there.

I think if peter wrote instructions he would still not read or understand them.LOL!!

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyWed Aug 17, 2022 8:19 am

Hi Guys,

Well it is time to tackle the Masts and Yards.

As I do not have a Lathe and my electric drill burnt out after many many years of service these all have to be done by hand using a file and sandpaper.

I did not take any photos of the Foremast assembly but i have remembered to take some of the Main mast.

After completely assembling the for mast as it was attached to the ship I decided to assemble this Main mast as a separate assembly then fit it to the ship making it a little easer.

A few photos of the Yards and them attached to the mast.

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At this stage i started fitting the running rigging ready to attach the Main Mast to the ship.

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You can see in the background in some of the photos that the Foremast is already fitted but by showing you the Main mast and it's setup you will see how i did the Foremast.


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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyWed Aug 17, 2022 9:16 am

Those spars look so evenly tapered on each side! It's not too bad a task if the wood is relatively soft like dowel but I understand you had to plunder your wife's supply of wooden knitting needles? If this was the case (and don't worry, I won't tell your wife), the bamboo is  been much harder I think.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyWed Aug 17, 2022 11:41 am

Hi Cormorant,
It has been a bit of a battle.
As you know this boat is one of those boats that has given me grief all the way throughout the in-tier build and dose not want to be built, if you know what I mean. 

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyThu Aug 18, 2022 1:47 pm

Hi Guys,
A couple of photos of the 4 cannons fitted on the deck.

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A view of some ropes tied to the Belaying pins.I will show how i achieved this the easy way.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Aug 19, 2022 7:25 am

Hi Guys,

These photos brings this progress log up to date.

The next job will be adding the main mast and then rigging it.
It should look similar to the foremast in the photos.
At this stage of the build there is not a lot you can say as it is all rigging all over the place.
The Flag was rolled and twisted in my fingers so that it appeared to have movement.

Rigging this sort of ship really keep the mind and fingers active.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Aug 19, 2022 8:16 am

You are correct - it keeps the mind and fingers active, particularly tieing the ratlines and threading the deadeyes. 
Did you use a jig for the ratlines?

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Aug 19, 2022 8:20 am

Hi Cormorant,

I did every thing by eye, Like my signature says "If it looks right then it probably is" altho that might not be true in this case LOL!!

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Aug 19, 2022 8:26 am

And an excellent job you have made!
I only ask the question as I looked into a jig for the ratlines, but it received very poor reviews so I didn't bother. With such a large number of rungs (I counted 844 for my two masts), any slight discrepancy gets lost in the overall.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Aug 19, 2022 8:56 am

Hi Cormorant,

I know there are Ratline jigs available that cover different scales.
I think the best and cheapest is to make your own using something like flowerpot sticks and small nails.
It all depends on how close to scale you want to get, this model that I am making is really only a representative of the ship as when you look at all the different manufactures of this ship kit they are all different.

I think if you were building something like the 'HMS Victory' then maybe people will say things like "that bit is not right" as they have something to compare it to.

The way I look at it is as long as i am enjoying myself then that is all that matters, altho having said that i have not enjoyed this one so much as it has been fighting me all the way.

Hopefully it has given up fighting now LOL!!

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 20, 2022 12:19 pm

Hi Guys,

I knocked up a quick jig for making the spare loops for the belaying pins.
A piece of scrap wood some small nails and a cocktail stick.

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This is how I rig the running rigging to the belaying pins.

Firstly I wrap the thread around the pin just enough so that i can glue it in place.

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I then wrap about five or six turns of thread around the pins on the jig and add i small drop of glue to hold it all in place.

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I then transfer the thread onto a couple of cocktail sticks and wrap some thread around the middle and hold that in place with a drop of glue.

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Then I loop it over the belaying pin and glue it in place.

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This will be the last post for a while as doing the rigging is a bit repetitive and i am sure you don't want to see it time and time again.

The next post might be when i have finished the main mast.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 20, 2022 12:52 pm

Thanks for the tip Martin. I will be able to use it on HMS Surprise (whenever that may be!)

Cheers

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 20, 2022 1:03 pm

Hi Steve,

It would be great if only that guy would pull his finger out and get on with writing the instructions.

Maybe you could convince him to send us both a free kit  of HMS Surprise and we could build and write the instructions for him LOL!!

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 20, 2022 1:08 pm

Or send one to Pete who doesn't need them anyway?

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Aug 20, 2022 1:10 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing Very good Steve.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyThu Aug 25, 2022 11:28 am

Hi Guys,
As you can see in the attached photos I am still wrestling with the main mast rigging.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyWed Aug 31, 2022 1:58 pm

Hi Guys,

Just a little update.

At last I have finished the main mast except for some rigging that has to attach to the Mizzen mast.

Next job is to start all over again this time on the Mizzen mast.
At least the end of this build is in sight.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyThu Sep 01, 2022 8:18 am

Looking good Martin. Hopefully the mizzen shouldn't take as long as you have had plenty of practice on the main.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyThu Sep 01, 2022 1:32 pm

Hi Cormorant,

Hopefully I will have her finished in about a month or two.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Sep 09, 2022 10:56 am

Hi Guys,

As some of you know it has been a real battle to build this model and at last i can say she is finally finished.
Not my best work but at least she is done.
I think i will do a little bit of clay sculpting before i tackle the next project.

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Sep 09, 2022 2:53 pm

Hi Martin

You have made a really cracking job of her.

Congratulations and very well done!

Steve

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptyFri Sep 09, 2022 5:40 pm

Hi Martin

That is looking good, photo 2 looks a bit drunk Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.)   HMB Endeavour (Mantua Kit.) EmptySat Sep 10, 2022 6:54 am

Thank's guys,

I am glad to of finished it.
It was quite a battle but when I got to doing the rigging I could then see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Fred,

A little to much rum LOL!!
(she was not sitting right in the stand)

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