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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 24, 2013 4:44 pm

Hi Damien, you need to use Styrene solution to thin the resin up to a maximum of 8% by weight (any more than that will start to break down the resin). I wouldn't recommend using acetone as it is designed to dissolve the chemical bonds in the resin.

The build is looking good and I love the belt tensioning idea so simple.


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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 24, 2013 10:33 pm

Thanks Windy, I'll see if I can just get a 1lt bottle on line.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Jan 26, 2013 10:24 am

Progressing well, back of motor room notched to clear the drive belts.

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Then cut and assembled the cabin sides and front.
and sat the roof funnel and bridge in place.

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Polyester resined the motor room and the radio and battery bilge I poured in heaps more than necessary and then rolled the hull over side to side and upside down to fully coat the hidden under deck and let it settle in the bilge and removed the excess one brush full at a time it worked surprisingly well I brushed the deck with leftovers but it dried with deep brush strokes in the resin Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Hence I'm looking for Styrene thinners.
I had a thought I have a consolidating roller for working bubbles out of resin/cloth lay ups I had the idea a flat brass roller instead of the current threaded one will roll off the excess after brushing I give it a try on some scrap tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 27, 2013 11:45 am

Started the cabin today the general box is ready for the roof.

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Roof detail started.

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while watching Star trek Voyager and perusing the magazine I noticed I've missed some stringers on yje cabin box roof I'll look at them some more tomorrow.
We have some really pleasant weather at present.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 28, 2013 4:10 am

Got the 6 vents done before hand cramps and double vision made it too dangerous for using a scalpel and super glue on fiddly bits, pleased with the results.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 28, 2013 9:44 am

Disappeared to the shed after dinner. got the paddle arm supports on and the cabin top on the bridge house is sitting on.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 30, 2013 8:42 am

The vents painted in heritage red.

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I made the guard rail stanchions and the railings from 15A electric house cabling after stripping insulation, the stanchions from power wire 1.5mm dia I learned a little trick if you clamp one end of the copper wire in a vice and grip the other end firmly with a heavy pliers and move your arm quickly away it will straighten and garden the copper.

Next I stripped the insulation fro the earth wire to reveal 7 strands of fine wire around 4' long I clamped one end in forceps clamped it in vice then ensuring equal length twisted a loop in the other end, out coat hanger wire I made a J hook which I put in my cordless drill an placed the loop over the hook operate the drill until the wire rope looks like you imagine scale rope to be. I must add this rope making reduces the overall length the 4' I started with ended around 3' of fairly stiff cable.

The pic shows the outer insulation of the cable, the Stanchions and my wire rope.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 31, 2013 9:58 am

A bit of lathe fun some 11.5mm brass bar turned into a ships horn 10mm x 16mm I don't have a boring bar small enough to do the inside taper so I used 5 drill sizes to step the the inside.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 08, 2013 9:20 am

Guard rail stanchions on upper an lower deck.

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I'll start the railings tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 09, 2013 6:31 am

Stanchions added to the lower deck and the railings added.

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and a starts on the upper deck rails until my fingers on left hand decided they'd cramp and twist funny shapes rather than hold the .8mm solder.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 09, 2013 8:47 am

Another hour after dinner and I finished the upper deck railings the curved forward rails were challenging but look ok.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 09, 2013 5:10 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 13, 2013 12:50 pm

Primer applied.

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Ready for sanding.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 14, 2013 3:30 am

Temp mid 30's C for the next week the first cool day I'll be in hospital having Gall bladder removed I guess that'll put paid to a few more days.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 14, 2013 10:24 pm

good luck Damien.......and Wrigley is coming on a real treat.
looks real good,

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 14, 2013 11:07 pm

Thanks Neil.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 15, 2013 10:24 pm

Yes mate best of luck with the op hope your swift to recover.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 19, 2013 12:21 pm

Thanks Phil one day to go lol.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 27, 2013 11:49 am

A bit more done painting little folk.
Having trouble getting skin colour right though, currently have ethnic ok I have to work on aussie tans lol.

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A new interpretation of stuck up?????

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 01, 2013 10:46 pm

While they looked good while handling them to paint other parts the acrylic paint I used just rubs off the plastic figures I suppose I should have air brushed them with primer first back to ebay and bought pre-painted ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 02, 2013 7:58 am

Damien,

I've used Humbrol enamels to paint this type of figure.That seems to stick Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 11:05 am

Back at it today 36 seated 1/30th seated figures arrived form China yesterday so I set about making seating the seat and back were easy while puzzling over the legs Jo said what about those button thingy's you gave me, they were holding the cord in the bottom rail of the Timber Venetian blinds I bought for the timber.

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The one on right has bolt fitted so I could chuck it in the lathe, the one on left is machined the correct size but is a reject as it turned out of centre.

Next pic is the seats with stands fitted and a few bodies sitting.

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I then had an idea to have a curved seat around the front of the bridge I tried a curve copy thingy with multiple needles without much success just bent guard rails, I decided to mold balsa around the front I soaked 2 strips cut across the grain after an hour I patted them dry with towelling put a line of PVA down the middle an bent it around the bridge held in place to dry with some stiff hat elastic.

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I'll check tomorros to see if it worked or just jlued itself to the bridge house it'll be 2thumbsup or Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 2:57 am

It worked well before removal I ran a bead of supaglue around the outer edge and and only had about 10mm outward movement when removed I measured the bridge width and glued a scrap in place to hold it.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Apr 13, 2013 11:07 am

The mold worked a treat I successfully cut 10mm wide U the fiddly bit was cutting 10 10mm x 10mm triangle supports for the seat. It wasn't until I processed the pic's that I found the guard rails were misshapen. Ohh well there's always tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Apr 13, 2013 1:38 pm

Coming on nicely Damien 2thumbsup

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat Apr 13, 2013 11:53 pm

Thanks Barrie it's a race against the weather now to get some colour on her before the cold sets in.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 15, 2013 7:10 am

Before priming the bridge seating I had to sand filler smooth it was fiddly behind the railings so I made this from a 3 1/2" emery board and a bit of scrap & a few drops supa glue.


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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 8:29 am

is that very small linked chain you are using for the rails, Damien, or specially twisted rod.........looks amazing stuff.
I am enjoying this.......something totally different from the norm.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 9:59 am

Thanks Neil.
The railings are made with 2 strands from 7 strand electrical wire I strip about 4ft unravel it and take 2 strands twist a loop in each end chuck one end in a vice and with a hook made from scrap wire (coat hangar or bike spoke)chucked in a cordless drill attached to the other end with wire held taught start drill in what ever direction you choose as the wind progresses move in with it and stop when you think the wind is tight enough when satisfied put the drill in opposite direction for a few turns to release the tension if the hook is slipped off before this it will whip madly around possibly doing damage to itself and maybe to you.

The wire rail diameter is easily changed by adding strands of wire.
I have some gold chain Jo gave me for the dock to deck entry way.


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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 4:58 pm

Ingenious.

cheers, neil.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyFri May 03, 2013 12:24 pm

Bit of a set back hmmm more like a disaster sprayed the deck yesterday when had a look this afternoon the surface has cracks like lightening all over it I don't understand it I used grey high fill primer and brand new enamel paint never experienced anything like it in 45+ years of modelling.
I take a pic. in the morning.
And to top it off when cleaning the airbrush I must have splashed a drop of thinners on the roof of the freshly painted Bridge roof consequently blistered a 20mm circle on the roof it wasn't my day.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyFri May 03, 2013 9:14 pm

Damien it sounds to me like something was sprayed onto the primer unknown to you befor you applied the colour was any one dusting and polishing in the vicinity of the wrigley between coats or is it possible the paint stock was somehow damaged/comtaminated in storage
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat May 04, 2013 3:32 am

Unsure but it was thoroughly wiped down with a tack rag prior to painting and the paints were brand new tins of yellow and white mixed to get a heritage creamy/yellow and worked OK on the upper deck.
I removed and discarded the railings read to hit with the detail sander and take it back to bare card and start over.


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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat May 04, 2013 6:56 am

The damage to roof of bridge went through to the primer an easy fix I'll wet sand it back to primer and re-paint.

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The deck is a different kettle of fish I used a red Stop putty (Automotive) prior to the grey primer applying the top coat some how caused a reaction and went through all layers and split the surface of the 2mm card I can't see it being resurrected as is I'm thinking I'll place another deck over the existing one might be the easier fix.

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Apart from the mishaps it is coming together the Paddle wheels and the vents are the same colour as the bilge.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySat May 04, 2013 5:51 pm

Scary how that was able to happen Damien you'd have thought the primer would've prevented that
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun May 05, 2013 5:16 pm

it's horrendous when that sort of thing happens, and especially when the paints/stoppers are supposed to be interactive........makes me wheep with frustration......best of luck with the resto Damien.......I feel for you matey.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 06, 2013 3:00 am

Thanks Phil and Neil I contemplated using a 24oz hammer on it !!!! only for a short time though.
I cut a new deck with about 10mm overlap to make it more realistic of our river boats. Ummm to be honest it's so 1mm holes for the stanchions won't be drilled into the 1.25mm stanchions I cut off to sand the cracks out, I then drilled 29x1mm holes for the new stanchions.
I mixed some polyester resin for glue I brushed a heavy coat on the deck and placed the new deck on top & put weights all over the deck and went it to watch some episodes of Haven, while bending the copper wire stanchions to shape.
4hrs later it still hadn't cured fully 6c was a bit cold I should have warmed the resin prior to adding the MEKP.

While it was clamped I flipped it upside down and epoxy'd the stanchions in place.

All good a little filler and a diamond burr to remove resin that oozed into the groove the cabin sits in.
Pics later some man of the house things to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 06, 2013 12:19 pm

Made a start on the railings and discovered half of them needed more epoxy I should have mixed a second batch instead of persevering with half cured batch yesterday, but forgot to take the camera tomorrow's another day.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue May 07, 2013 3:24 am

the pic's

The underside of the new deck with stanchions epoxy'd in place.

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The first bits of railing on.

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The spacer block I made to get the height right on the lower rail.

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Rails finished bar a little filing on pointy bits of solder.

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Ready for a complete re-paint tomorrow as the weather is warming up.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyWed May 08, 2013 10:38 am

Her bum repainted.

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The vents and seats had to be repainted as I neglected to put a lid on the storage container and they got grey overspray all over them.

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I think I have a solution to my paint problem I've been using general purpose thinners for both enamel and Auto acrylic paints theres no hastle with the acrylics but enamels go ballistic when a second coat is applied I only used GP as the paint dries quicker than thinning with turps and I'm to scungy to buy enamel thinners, this time I'm using turps for all coats.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 13, 2013 3:42 am

Using turpentine solved my enamel woes, I wasn't happy with the original cream colour so when I mixed the new batch I added a little black to the yellow white mix and low and behold it became a lemon/green I really like it.

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The paddles were painted with the first batch of hull colour therefore is a slightly different colour.

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put a couple on the upper deck seat.

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The couple and seats sitting in place for Pic's.

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I still need to lay non skid walk ways prior to an overall coat of satin clear.
And make a stand for her I've chosen a name for her "The Lady of The Lake"
As you can see I'm moving again after my paint setback 2thumbsup
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Made a start on the non-slip treads the gizmo I made for getting the profile of bridge house received 2 extra layers so it could form the inner curve of the forward tread, I then modified a pencil to add 20mm to the first curve as the Pic shows.

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As the next pic shows I've decided on 2000 grit wet & dry for the treads.

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The treads aft of wheel house I botched so it ended being a template as shown next.

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After today's effort I smothered my hands in anti - inflammatory gel it was a cold 8c winters a few weeks early will try a heater this year. It may just waste money as a claustrophobic I have to leave the door open.
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Looking Nice Damien as usual.
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Thanks Phil.
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Got the walkway 2000 grit W&Dry paper down yesterday on the upper deck it looks good only wasted 2 sheets of to 2000 paper before I got the measurements right!!! That's modelling.

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Put the forward section of lower deck under weights to stop curl.

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and the next section.

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While these were drying I started putting the vents in place.

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on the 4th (last) Murphy stepped in & I glued it on the wrong side of the mark with super glue.

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The damage done with my pallet knife removing it.

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I put filler in ready for more painting tomorrow GRRRRRRRRRRR I thought I was ready for detailing, the primer will be OK not sure on the top coat it's getting very cold I don't want a flash fire from spraying with the heater on in the shed.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun May 19, 2013 11:35 am

The repair worked great the paint still a little tacky so haven't put the vent in place, the funnel is on I put the seats in place and a few folk for a photo shoot here goes.

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I completed the name board I printed out to names then put sticky tape on both sides cut them out and hobby glued them to 1/32 ply and sealed the bare ply with dope.
It's coming together.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun May 19, 2013 12:54 pm

Looking good Damien. Can't wait to see how it sails.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun May 19, 2013 1:04 pm

Thanks Barrie it's a ways off sailing yet though.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptySun May 19, 2013 11:29 pm

looking superb Damien................painting a model is my worst nightmare,but it seams I am not the only one who has the odd problem now and then.............thankfully you seam to be able to repair them far easier than I do..............someone said to me once that painting is: 50% preparation 10% application and 40% patience..............sadly that last 40% is what I lack when it comes to painting,Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wrigley 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon May 20, 2013 1:42 am

I'll post the name pic again in the original form with the ghost spot the differences something went wrong when in I put it on photobucket. The second pic is as it should be and went onto photobucket without issue.

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