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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon May 20, 2013 1:02 pm

Yes Neil it cuts deep when you stuff up but you move on and repair as best you can the 2mm card I used is not forgiving of blunders as I found using plaster type filler on broken surface made the card swell I had to turn the heater as my language heated the shed.
Anyway I made a move on Windows with shades (I borrowed some mirror plastic Jo has for her Doll houses) and the brass horn I did on my lathe this model keeps looking better.





I'll spray the satin top coat on the cabin tomorrow then I better get a taxi to the h'ware store for some timber for a stand on second thought I'll fire up the compressor and nail gun and laminate some Venetian blind slats to make them.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon May 20, 2013 7:29 pm

That shadow is just weird Damien unlike the boats which is looking really good
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Thu May 23, 2013 10:26 am

Paddles mounted and work nicely with the leather belts. I tried for a video of the moving but a 7.2v on 12v motors they were just a blur on the video I'll try on 4.8v tomorrow



Mast and P & S lights fitted.





I cut a hole in the forward bulkhead to allow the placement of lead ballast and glues the lid of a milk carton over it so it can be sealed.



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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Fri May 24, 2013 7:01 am

Productive day walkway chains done.



Seats and passenger installed lower deck and power couplers for the motors installed.



The changes I did to the transmitter for the TANK steering I removed the throttle ratchet and installed 2 springs to center the stick as per the photo.



This resulted in different tensions of the 2 sticks so I did the same on the 2nd stick.



I also touched up the satin clear where needed on the cabin and upper deck and super glued the rest of the passenger seats up top. No pic as it's sitting on my shed roof drying. (The shed is under the carport)


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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:49 am

Moderators could you please remove the advertising link attached to the word "photo" above the first transmitter Pic i've no idea how it got to bet a link.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:02 pm

Seems its been done Damien unless you have a web crawler program running on your pc its not showing a link here
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:02 am

All fixed my computer geek son used teamviewer 6 from 1200km away to fix it.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:35 am

Made some progress added Victorian era lace work around the upper deck which was supplied from Jo's sewing box acrylic art paint was swabbed into it several times to get full saturation of the lace.



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The batteries 2 x 5 cells for each motor held in place with velcro. 2 series joiners were made to give 12v from each set of 2 packs.

The RX and ESC's sit in a tray well above any water ingress sitting on 2 x 6mm sq cross rails.



To avoid having antenna wire all over the deck I used a 2.5mm long shank drill to go through the bridge roof and through the upper deck using a cordless drill freehand only 1mm off centre on the 6mm sq roof beam and used the top tube section of an old antenna to slide the new 24swg wire antenna (2 bits soldered together) with a stretched Z on the end to hold it in place. The length of this was cut from the existing antenna on the RX. A small pear shaped piece of balsa was glued to the top of the new antenna to aviod eye puncture whilst leaning over the model .



I didn't have enough lead for ballasting so took a ride to a tyre place and nicely asked if they had any old weights expecting to pay scrap value he said do you have a container I handed over a 2 litre ice cream bucket which he promptly filled saying there may be some steel ones in it, I didn't know steel was used for wheel weights about 8kg all up and through out around 700g of steel and zinc weights. Enough left for this and several more models.


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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:48 am

More drama with the 4ch RC gear after getting a refund after it came with no means to attach the antenna the modifying the gimbals for tank steering was finally ready to power up the boat and the gear didn't work Tx had a lit green Led and a flashing red which I assume is a fault tried several sets of batteries with same result dead as a fish on the beach. So I stripped it of usable pars and chucked the rest And bought another from a different seller 2.4Gh.

Meanwhile the details are finished.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:51 pm

she looks superb Damien.......lovely.........looking forward to seeing her on the water.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:13 am

Thanks Neil winter now only water she may see is my test tank for several months.

I found 3mm dia rubber for watch makers lathe motor drive where you cut to length and heat the ends and squish the ends together and trim the excess it may be more sturdy than my thin leather ones I got 12ft for $10 from an ebay buy.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:03 pm

Not been in the shed for 3 and a bit weeks Been hit with Viral tonsillitis sore throat and hacking cough just think it's getting better and have to go shopping in 5c temps and away it goes again and nowt the Dr's can do Grrrrrr.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:04 pm

hope you are feeling better now Damien . the finish is brilliant bet you cant wait to put her on the water, daft as it is we are having a heat wave here touching the 30s  pew 5c sounds bad.lol!   
I think the free plans have some great choices to build from have you chosen your next build yet,

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:26 am

Thanks David, been a particularly cold winter a few warm nights of around 10c followed a week of -0c with the lowest -4.6c as for me this virus is heading for it's 5th week when I have to venture out in the cold for shopping , put the garbage out sets it off again.
My wife got it about a week before me I think we're reinfecting each other. We'll survive though only the good go young.
 
I'm thinking my next model will be a paddler version of Glynn's Odgensburg ferry free in June Model Boats which I hope to get next time I venture to the shops.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:43 am

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I'm thinking my next model will be a paddler version of Glynn's Odgensburg ferry free in June Model Boats which I hope to get next time I venture to the shops.
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Damien,

I have that issue and plan. I can send it to you if you want it. If I send just the plan and copy the relevant pages postage will not be too expensive. Let me know your address and I'll send it this week.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:38 am

Thanks for the offer Barrie much appreciated. This issue is the next to arrive at my news agent it's probably waiting now.
I have 4 models to finish before starting a new one.

They are LCT-6 landing craft, 2 - Airboats and the Wrigley paddler.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:22 pm

Looks like I'm committed to building her I just spent $107au on 4 x 1/43 scale cars for the deck talk about starting at the deck lol
Being a Renault enthusiast  they are a 4cv  a Dauphine a R8 Gordini and an Alpine A110.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:19 pm

Almost finished her transport case the base is a cardboard box reshaped and painted with polyester resin inside and out it's amazingly strong for the top I used 3mm MDF as I ran out of c/board 3 &1/2  3mm x 60cm x 120cm sheets went into the lids for this and the car ferry.



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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:37 pm

The transport box is now finished coated with polyester resin inside and out and lined with Camp mattress foam with velcro straps Bow and stern to stop the model moving within the box and another to stop the upper deck shaking loose and being damaged.









All that remains to do is finish radio install and ballast her.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:08 pm

Very neat Damien - good job 2thumbsup  2thumbsup  2thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:01 pm

hi Damien,

I have just been watching train wagons in Auss on quest tv, Thumbup  I have this vision of you on your buggy with three trailers behind loaded up  lol!  lol!  with boats. I have all ways made boxes for my boats, they do really save damaging your boat.







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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:25 am

Thanks Barrie and David the boxes stop wind damage and if anything shakes loose it's captive inside lol
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat May 17, 2014 12:26 pm

I got the radio fitted with 2 esc's with a battery for each there's no turning them off unless one battery is disconnected, I'll have to fit separate switches in the battery feed wires.
The paddles don't turn very fast on 7.2v so I have 2 choices add a battery to the pack or make slightly larger motor pulleys.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat May 17, 2014 7:24 pm

Try upping the voltage to 8.4 or 9.6, that will incress your RPM, a larger motor wont always give you more RPM, check the motors no load spec and then take a 1/4 off that will give u an Aprox underload RPM at the current voltage. as a guide am MFA 385 motor will do 9000 RPM at 15v.. in theory thats only 3000 RPM at 7.2. 

If you are increasing the voltage be sure the motor is able to withstand the Load incress a cold or warm to the touch motor = perfect running, a hot motor means its working hard  and a motor you burn your self on is overloaded!

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat May 17, 2014 11:39 pm

Aron I'll try 8.4v that's the max rating of the ESC's and see how they go so close to wetting her bilges in a float test.
I made a wood AA cell with a hole down the middle for the wire conductor so I can use an 8 cell battery box.
Sailing straight will probably take some stick work as one motor is like most they run slower in reverse on the bench I noticed the starboard motor is noticeably slower and this little black duck hasn't a clue how to change the motor timing.

Back to the car ferry now whilst I wait switches from Hong Kong as I won't spend $20 on a taxi's to buy a $5 switch.  Scrooge Mc Gardner.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:58 am

This Lady was much easier to ballast.
You can see how much lead was required



I thought being 12v hair dryer motors with pulley drive the paddles looked a tad slow so I bought some 10 cell battery boxes hahaha I think 5 cells will do as reverse completely flooded the engine bay and all ahead full she reacted like a fast electric.
I'll also try to make paddle shrouds to thwart at least some of the water as reverse is needed for steering.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:22 am

It seems you can't buy 5 cell battery boxes so I chose appropriate sizes Dowel cut just a little shorter than a battery and drilled a 2mm hole down the middle & used 1mm copper wire through the hole formed and filled with solder as seen in the pic.



I recently accidentally bought 20 1800ma AAA cells instead of AA cells so as a weight saving measure I'll use the for Rx batteries.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:39 am

Ever have one of those moments you get so wrapped up in what you're doing you have an OOOOOOOOOOOOH darn moment.
Just did finally got the controller for my lathe motor finished walked over to install it sat down in my chair that had moved I landed on this model and from a cursory glance destroyed it or will need many months to repair/rebuild.


I'll get some pic's tomorrow when I've calmed down.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:35 pm

Been out to have a look shes in a sorry state superstructure badly damaged hull has a ding in it the passengers and the seats are no longer attached and 50% of the hand rails are crushed.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:47 pm

That's pretty tough Damien. Will it be easier to rebuild than try to repair?

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:22 am

I'll have a look now I've calmed down I imagine it'll be like a jigsaw puzzle to put back together, the funnel is squashed like a concertina needing a new one made.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:10 am

Not a total right off the hull at bow has been compromised and it's a multi piece jigsaw.






























The hull deck and bottom are clad with 2mm printers card it appears from this next pic that polyester resin does not penetrate the surface and has separated leaving bare spots.






Not sure how I'll tackle the deck at the bow with railings attached is bent down and the stiffness integrity of the card is now compromised perhaps removing the paint and saturating the affected area with super glue will stiffen it up again.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:40 am

i was very sorry to see your pictures.  I know you must feel gutted at such a sight.  My feelings go out to you as I have not come across this before.  The main thing is to survey the situation and carefully work out a restoration program.

Please be patient and careful consider the way forward. I'm sure you will find a way to restore her one step at a time.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:06 pm

hi Damien ,
 I am glad you didn't do any damage to your self thankfully, it will be a work in progress now, I am sure you will get it back to what it was soon. you will have the summer to look forward to soon and crack on with it then.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:40 am

Thanks everyone i have a bruised Bum my Pride hurts more though.
 I've finished my lathe motor conversion rest of day for clean up will start the repairs tomorrow or tuesday.
Stay tuned for more  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:34 pm

Damien, what can I say, but sorry mate.........................hopefully she'll look better than ever once you have given her a refit, and pride will be restored...............I think we have all had a brain rush at least once in our lives.
I was building a model for a museum in Shetland once, and had just fitted stanchions to the deck of the trawler, when it rolled off the table and smashed them all..........I was inconsolable, and even at 40 odd I went to bed and cried like a baby.................so understand how you feel.............and it's horrible.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:14 pm

The stanchions and railings are now straight all other damage treated to liberal amounts of super glue.
Not sure how to tackle the broke 1/4sq on the hull bottom rise at the bow it's been pushed in about 10mm I can't get at it from inside the hull I'm so thinking of a small screw eye into the 1/4 sq and trying to pull it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:09 am

I tried tried the screw eye into the cracked 1/4sq with cord threw the eye I held the boat while my wife pulled on the cord, this is as far as the dent would pull out.

 

So I changed tack and removed the the broken strip wood and rough sanded the area ready to receive bog filler.



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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:45 am

A quick spray and you wont be able to tell it was ever damaged Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:45 am

Filler applied and sanded ready for primer I think I'll have to mix new deep red for below the waterline as it was hand mixed I still have the grey above waterline paint and the railings are an off the shelf colour.



I used artists sketch pad paper wrapped around a berocca can as I did the original and cut balsa inserts to strengthen the tube.



It won't take as long as I first thought to make her ship shape.   2thumbsup 2thumbsup 2thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:54 am

Rings added to the funnel 4mm strips of sketch paper attached with doll house wallpaper glue looked like really thinned PVA.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:27 am

This repair was much easier than I imagined during the stress of the fall that caused the damage.
The hull has repaired with a few minor imperfections.



The twisted wire rails are the best I can get them the touch up paint was close but not quite the same colour but what touch ups on any machinery is perfect?
 






The new funnel held in place withe lead buttons while the epoxy dries.

 

All that remains is to refit the paddles and the radio gear.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:40 am

Well done Damien - good as new 2thumbsup Thumbup lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:17 am

Thanks Barrie it's a big relief to be finished.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:35 am

Wired 2 x 5  AA flat battery trays and cut about 3/8" from the 2mm drive belts and re-heat weld them.
Paddle speed is a lot closer to the correct speed all done bar the ballasting which I'll do after I wire the new battery boxes for the Sea Road Lady I'll ballast them both together.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:42 am

Time to ballast found her way to stern heavy and as this previous pic shows quite a bit of lead needed to ballast her.



Now that I can see better using the test tank this amount of lead would have put her below the water line so the ESC's and batteries must move forward before adding lead.
One battery pack will lay flat in the bow the other laid on edge against the forward bulkhead and the ESC's just far enough forward to allow the removal of battery packs for charging progress pic's shortly.

To reduce the weight of the stern I purchased on ebay some 4mm brass tube to replace the 4mm silver steel motor mount runners and the paddles spindle.

It'll take 3 weeks for the brass to arrive from Hong Kong.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:42 am

The brass tube has arrived motor slides replaced as is the the paddle spindle shaft, it looks good and cut the weight considerably I'm also considering  taking drill and dremel to the paddles to further reduce stern weight.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrigley 121   Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:17 am

More repair needed my darling little 2 1/2yo grandson decided it'd be good to play with and dragged it off tyhe shelf via the hand rails and after I said no he headed for the car ferry darn I'm not as quick as I used to be.  lol!
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