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PostSubject: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyThu Dec 01, 2016 6:59 am

Bought my next model today Hull + plan and all the fittings Marks model bits sells, a really good incentive to finish Josie Olsen  soon.
Have to save up for the wheels and fittings Clyde model boats offers for this nice paddle tug already emailed Kim about them.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyWed Dec 21, 2016 7:10 am

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The hull and fittings arrived today I must say it's the best Hull moulding I've ever seen and the fittings require very little trimming.
Mark is an artist of the trade. HMS Volcano No1b

I almost have enough saved for the deck and fittings Kim Maclean of Clyde model boats produces, I expect they'll be of great quality also.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 3:31 am

Have ordered and paid for Feathering wheels, deck, sponsons, motors mount and Bridge.
Kim said he'd set the machines making them over the weekend and hoped to post monday UK time. 
I'm awaiting an email telling me the mail cost.

The wheels were significantly cheaper without the 12BA or 1.2mm screws to assemble them 
Those tiny screws I put in tips& tricks will fit the bill beautifully.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 8:35 am

hi Damien ,

have you got any photos of this model to let us see what you are building 2thumbsup , it sounds like nice boat.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 9:05 am

Volcano was renamed Volatile.


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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 11:41 am

I have tried to find some info on her but can't find much at all Damien, do you have anything on her, as in build and service dates,  or other info. It would be good to know a little more.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyTue Mar 21, 2017 10:34 am

Try this Paul. Sparse info but gives all the version name and years for the Dromedary class paddler.

http://rfanostalgia.org/gallery3/index.php/RMAS/Tugs/Prewar/Dromedary-Class

And this paddleducks thread.

http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6165.msg34338#msg34338

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyFri Mar 24, 2017 7:34 am

Thanks 2thumbsup 2thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyFri Mar 24, 2017 7:47 am

All the parts have been made just waiting on Kim getting to post office to get accurate post price then another week while Paypal processes postage payment.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySun Apr 23, 2017 4:18 am

Have everything but the paddle shaft as 6mm was sent instead of 5mm and the  the tiny 12ba bolts to put it together Kim suggested Screw shop so purchased them only to be told they were out of 1/4" so sent double the amount of 5/32" instead what the heck i'm going to do with 5/32 12ba bolts is anybody's guess.


I received an email with the instructions  for wheel assembly this morning They're rather sparse info wise not at all confidant of building them correctly a few pic's throughout the 5 pages of notes would make assembly easier.


All up after saving for 3 months this model has cost 508GBP or $862Au before starting and I'm sure there will but a lot more needed before she's finished I WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE ACCIDENTALLY  DROPPING OR SITTING ON THIS MODEL.


And after saving some more I still have to buy 5mm stainless shaft for paddles thought of silver steel but it's more expensive.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySun Apr 23, 2017 8:54 am

Any chance of a photo or two of the bits Damien. 2thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySun Apr 23, 2017 9:33 am

I'll see how I go tomorrow Having trouble with my camera Paul only getting 2 or 3 pic's per 2 x AA batteries I've bought another on ebay still several weeks away and it won't work with nicads any more so getting costly with dry batteries I'll try though.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySun Apr 23, 2017 12:42 pm

Thanks Damien, I know you will do your best 2thumbsup

My boys bought me a digital camera about four or five years back, I have to take the battery out every time I use it otherwise it goes flat, but when downloading through a USB port it charges at the same time which is quite handy. It's an easy thing to use but does allsorts of other stuff bar dancing a jig, all that stuff is beyond me or I rather have the habit of treating these things on a need to know basis............
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySun Apr 23, 2017 12:55 pm

I've had it about 6 years and always used nicads in it with it's charging dock until recently it wouldn't work on nicads at all so Wink unplugged the charger and started using dry cells  it's like it's gone very power hungry it a Fuji finepix A210 about 3 or 4 photos 
if taken in a row goes flat quick if left turned on.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyMon Apr 24, 2017 12:46 pm

My apologies Paul didn't get to shed today thought I'd pull a few weeds on the way out and put my back out, I'll try again tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyMon Apr 24, 2017 2:04 pm

Hope your not out of action for too long Damien, I know all about bad backs, I have suffered for years, there's only one thing to do, put your feet up Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyTue Apr 25, 2017 2:14 am

Been in a back brace after crushing 3 vertebrae in '85 9 years later they said I had osteoporosis caused buy a pituitary tumor which was removed via my nose in '94 I was really sick after radiation treatment at a cancer hospital and was told I'd be more comfortable at home and wouldn't make it to christmas of '94 guess I proved them wrong.  lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyTue Apr 25, 2017 7:59 am

That sounds like a lot of pain Damien Shocked

I have a back brace that I have to wear when doing anything strenuous these days, I have worn out discs at the top and bottom of my spine, you can actually hear then grind as I move..........
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyTue Apr 25, 2017 8:56 am

Yeah same here where hip joins spine was lifting 44 gallon drums and putting them under dozer blade to crush them then removing them to a pile last one before knock off time l grabbed it and threw sideways instead of forward it spat the disc out Doctors said If they operated 80% chance I'd never walk again I chose to wear it , I crushed L4 & L5 when I slipped on a slate step and landed on my butt,  Crushed C6 when we went over a bump in the road. heaps of pain as you well know. I take Tramadol when the pain is real bad other wise 2 panadol morn & night ya have to just make the most of what you've been dealt.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyFri Apr 28, 2017 10:32 am

As promised first off Hull and plan from Marks Model bits.

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and the fittings Mark makes "Funnels & bases, Vents, Bollards Std & roller and winch.

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Next everything Kim of Clyde Model Boats offers.
First The Laser cut wheels
Beautifully cut wheels no details to identify what the part are.

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Wheel floats.

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Sponsons and Aft Funnel base.

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Wheelhouse and Aft Funnel base.
I received two of these.

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Sponson and forward funnel base.

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Motors, pulleys and belts and Wheel centres, not sure about these the mount to shaft vis grub screws force screwed into the plastic rims there was an allen key for the grub screws unfortunately I dropped it on the carpet and I'm darned if I can find it.

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Engine room Vents.

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Deck and wheel vents etc.

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Motor & pulley housing with servo and battery trays. No assembly pictures given only a pi.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyFri Apr 28, 2017 11:32 am

The only pic from Kim's site and it's a single motor unit and wheel is only half built.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyFri Apr 28, 2017 3:31 pm

hi Damien,
you are going to be a busy boy,  that looks a great kit. the paddle wheels especially, i hope you post plenty of photos when you start building and sort out your camera. I don't say much but look in every day and enjoy all the builds on here.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat Apr 29, 2017 2:45 am

For sure plenty of photos probably much swearing too. 

Not at all confidant building the wheels there is nothing to identify what the myriad of small parts are the instructions say take this part and bend.

The laser cutting looks good still quite a bit of cutting still required on the deck photo the 4 triangles with the top cut off were not in the the package have not been identified as yet and no reply from seller pretty damn slack for the money I've spent.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat Apr 29, 2017 7:28 am

Thanks for the photo's Damien 2thumbsup looks to be a nice collection of well made parts, I look forward to you starting this build 2thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat Apr 29, 2017 8:40 am

It'll be awhile yet Paul I want to finish Josie Olsen first.

 I scanned the PDF file as photos to post the instructions.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat Apr 29, 2017 10:01 am

I found the wheel pic's I need on paddleducks site.

http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4110.msg19872#msg19872
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyThu May 11, 2017 2:49 am

Kim Mclean of Clyde model boats kindly posted 10 of these pic's which I've added to pic's I took of the Laser cut parts I took when they arrived.

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Grub screws were supplied with the hub kit they just screw into plastic I'm a bit sus about that.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyTue Dec 26, 2017 10:28 am

Changes were needed to my benches to accommodate Volcanoes length.

The shed work to allow Volcano to sit upon the bench completed the green structure with 2 draws used to have the draws side by side the 3 draw unit on top simply holds heat shrink tube it made lots of odd size containers redundant the went in the recycle bin along with many other odd shaped containers what was in them now accomodated in the 20 box rack on left side.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySun Aug 12, 2018 8:46 am

Made a start removed the wheel rims from the sprue and used a nail file to remove what the wire nippers missed and with a wire wheel in the dremel cleaned up the oxides on the RHS rim in the pic.

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Somehow the float sheets have been stained any ideas on how to to remove the stains??????????
I tried a light sanding with 600 grit paper to no avail.

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Any suggestions gladly accepted.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyFri Nov 02, 2018 10:15 am

Finally back back to building, 
Started with the Motors/ battery/ paddle shaft unit. 
I was a bit suss with the paddle shafts spinning in 4mm plywood so I cut 4 semi triangular pieces of scrap 4mm ply glued them in place The whiteness in the pic's is where I sprayed bicarb/water on the super glue.  
Then with 12mm sanding wheel  in the Dremel sanded them individually to match the shape of the original  pieces.
And gave it all a good coat of dope.

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I took some 10mm brass rod and machined 4 bearings 10mm dia flange 5mm reamed holes for the shafts with outer machined to 7.5mm, with 7.5mm holes carefully drilled in the plywood to accept the bearing as seen in the pics'

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Although I'll be using split shafts for individual paddle steering I set it all up on a single shaft I'm pleased it went together so easily without any hassles. That's a new one for me lol

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyThu Nov 08, 2018 7:16 am

Time to think on a stand for the model during construction and for display, I first tried 3 strips of masking tape side by side forward & aft raided wifeys craft boxes came up with some hessian webbing which I soaked in plaster grrr hadn't thought it through once plaster dried couldn't remove it without destroying the plaster, round 2 placed some card in position as i'd used all the hessian I decided on 25mm fibreglass tape  as pic's show after sanding I can use it as a stencil to mark the shape on more card and mark a further line to allow for whatever cushioning I I decide on later.

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyThu Dec 13, 2018 5:18 am

This model kit and all fittings is now for sale paid $1100 and a bit all up for the kit of parts and f/glass hull and all fittings plus the screws to put the wheels together.


It's a really sad day when you realise the main reason your not spending much time in the shed is simply because the project is beyond your capabilities if anyone is interested I'm asking $500aud plus freight.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyThu Dec 13, 2018 10:06 am

That is sad Damien, but I recognise where you're at. I feel the same about the Grand Banks hull I bought off RR. If the current build goes well, I may attempt it, but would prefer to sell the mouldings and build something more straightforward - its an age thing in my case lol! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyThu Dec 13, 2018 10:20 am

That's life Barrie I have a few plans so no intention of quitting altogether.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat Dec 15, 2018 5:52 am

I`ve decided to keep it if doesn't end up looking like HMS Volcano I'll rename her D's Earthquake.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptyTue Apr 23, 2019 11:41 am

Finally back to Volcano the stand parts are ready cut out, and I filled all the small air bubble holes in the gelcoat.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat May 11, 2019 10:55 am

Decision made.
Thread now closed as everything is in garbage bin for mondays collection.
When it dawned on me I've only spent a few hours on this model over the past 5 months I realised this build is beyond me and must go promptly.

I have several other paddler plans and plenty of timber/balsa to start afresh.
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PostSubject: Re: HMS Volcano   HMS Volcano EmptySat May 11, 2019 11:50 am

That's rather sad Damien, but probably best if it was getting you down. Start on something more straightforward to get yourself back in the groove as they say lol! lol! lol! lol! 

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